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Old 01-19-2004, 11:13 AM
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Rejection

Well lately I have been chasing after an aquaintence of my little brothers who I ahppen to think is quite a hottie.

Basically I have the world's biggest hard on for women with red hair, big boobs, tattoos and peircings. And the fact that this girl the other day got her clitoral hood peirced just sent me into lust.

She is a sweet girl, enjoys video games and well is now recently single and for those of you who are not familiar with the dating scene in the south, finding a girl who is attractive, single, of age and not a mommy is nigh impossible. Her ex-boyfriend is a total douchebag and only brings her down. Not only that, but he broke with her and basically gave her a "I think we should fuck other people speech."

The only problem is that she told a friend yesterday that was trying to hook us up that well she doesn't think of me that way and frankly sex with me will never happen becuase well I am just too creepy. The sad thing is though her mom was talking about what a sweet young man I am which will always kill any attraction any girl will have towards you.

So it is the first rejection I have faced in over two years and the first of many more to come. I had forgotten how much it hurt.
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Old 01-19-2004, 12:10 PM
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I'm sorry I fail to see where you were rejected????? Did you actually ask her out? A friend, of a friend, of a friend, heard she might not fuck you? Nothing ventured, nothing gained. You are not rejected til she tells YOU no. If you did not ask her out then you have not given her the opportunity to accept. If a man truly wants to date someone he will make the leap, take the risks neccessary to make the request his self ...and preferably in person.
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Old 01-19-2004, 12:43 PM
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Lilith,

Well I would rather not ask her out.

1) Just talking to her I can see she is too attached to her abusive ex and knowing him they will get back together after he is done having sex with his high school slut.

2) I don't know if you know this but I don't have any money, unless you count a date a sjust hanging out which we did last week.

3) Can you think of a quicker way to get the axe than approval form her mom? This is a 19 y/o girl we are talking about.

4) Why ask when you know the answer already? I am just heart broken because I misread a few of the signs and thought I may have had a chance. I should listen to that voice in my head that says "You are attracted to her, and as a result you will fail miserably at any chance you have."

5) I like the number five. My obession with five has nothing to do with this, but I just like things to be in fives. Heaven help us if I lose a finger or a toe. I would go form being mildly psychotic to being bat shit insane.

Anyways this is how rejection ends up for me. I assume all girls hate me so I never bother asking anyone out. Once or twice a year I meet a girl who isn't completely repulsed by my presence and start having conversations with her. I get my hopes up and well only to find out that she doesn't have the guts to tell me to my face that my personality is so grating and repulsive.

So really even thinking I may have a shot is about on the same level as asking her out.
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Old 01-20-2004, 02:07 AM
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Wow !!! Talk about fatalism, you are your own worst enemy.

You reject yourself without even letting someone else have the chance LOL. Seriously, life is about taking chances and you will get rejection but also you will get acceptances too.

Do not give up before you even start.
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Old 01-20-2004, 03:35 AM
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AWWWWWWWWW babe u sound so upset bout this girl. It really sounds as though u want to get it on with her but u cant and know she wont cause her mum likes u. Thats a bastard though cause i know what your saying as soon as her mum approves of a guy then shell go the opposite way complealty. On the other hand though i tend to agree a little bit with grumble in the way he says bout u being soooooooo defeatist. Give it a go and speak to her and see what she says. You never know what might happen.
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Old 01-20-2004, 06:03 AM
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I'm in agreement with Lilith.....and I'll go a step further!

The signals you put out will stimulate the result you get in return!

So....let's go down that list of 5.......

1) She just broke up with him! Woman don't just forget love.......she may love him the rest of her life for that matter.....but that doesn't mean she's IN love with him! There is a difference! It may not be the best time to expect her to begin a relationship.....but it's not unheard of! Just give her a little time and be there for her.

2) Don't know why you don't have any money.....but not everything revolves around it. If/when you do date this girl.....you'll find resources. Is a part time job out of the question?

3) Her mom might be your best bet here...but don't go schmoozing her just to get the green light! Be yourself....and if mom happens to like you....so be it! It could be worse....mom could actually want you for herself! Yikes! But seriously.....ok...you got the "kiss of death"....so don't hang out where mom can see what a "nice boy" you are. The subject need not come up again if you aren't available to compare to others!

4) If you already knew the answers.......how could you have misread the signs? Don't dub yourself "all knowing" in one breath and then feel that you've failed miserably in the next! I reiterate my first statement....The signals you put out will stimulate the result you get in return! If you KNOW you are going to fail before an attempt....you probably will in the end! Why not think of it like this....."This time I'm going to go about this differently....show confidence.....think positive......and at least I can say that I tried my best"! And....if indeed things do fail......take note of obvious mistakes and learn from them!

5) There is help for obsessive/compulsive disorder (O.C.D.).....and keep your philanges away from sharp objects!

Good luck hun! You'll only fail miserably if you let yourself fail miserably!
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Old 01-20-2004, 06:21 AM
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Ye gods! Pull yerself together, man!

Man, I haven't had to do this in such a long time, but I'm afraid it's overdue right now:
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Well I'm sorry, but you asked for it!

Now SMILE, DAMN YOU!




Much better. Now, lie down on the couch.....



So, Mr. Linguist. Read Lilith's post, cos she's right. This girl - we'll call her Vicky, ok? - she hasn't turned you down at all. You haven't even given her a chance to turn you down. Not everything people say to their friends is Gospel, especially not with 19 year olds!
Yes, she's probably still mixed up emotionally about her ex. Think about how messed up you are about this 'rejection' that didn't even happen - she's feeling the same things but after she'd been IN a relationship! At least when you ask someone out, you take the risk they'll turn you down and you prepare a little for that. But when you're in a committed relationship and someone says "hey, it was great, but I don't wanna shag you cos other chicks are hotter" - how do you think THAT makes her feel? One hundred times more rejected than you. But that's not going to last forever. It might take a month, it might take six months, it might take a year - who knows? The female mind is far to complex for mere mortals to predict.
Here's something that'll really flip your lid: THIS IS A GOOD THING!

Think about it: while she's emotionally wacked out, you have the opportunity to:
a) get your self-confidence up from the depths of that smelly swampland called Depression
b) show her you care, be supportive through her very difficult time, let her know you've got a caring, sensitive side that would be a nice comparison to the dickhead who dumped her
c) plan how you're going to court her. It's a sad reality, but girls don't just decide to sleep with you for no reason at all. One has to seduce them, woo them, court them. It takes work, but so does everything in life. Wouldn't it be worth it, to have a wonderful loving relationship?

The Mum thing...... what a petty society we live in, where teenage girls will turn down great guys purely cos their parents like him! Unfortunately, stupid stuff like that CAN happen. Doesn't always, tho! Some girls - shocking as it may seem these days - some girls actually do get on well with their parents! Sure, that's after the whole puberty thing, when they're all mature and wise and sensible, which she might be!!!
Don't write someone off purely because of other people's opinions - be they good opinions or otherwise.

Seriously CunningLinguist, you have GOT to focus on the positive. No girl in her right mind is going to say "You know what, really think it's about time I started dating depressed guys with no self esteem, yeah they're the kind of guys I dig!" - confidence is attractive, so make yourself attractive! If the glass is half empty, fill the damn thing!

So, your lessons from today's lecture are:
1. Be confident. The dating game is one big capitalist adventure, in more ways than one. You have to sell yourself to her, and nobody ever bought a car from a dealer who said it was a piece of shit.
2. Don't admit defeat until you hear it from her lips - and if that happens be gracious, be hurt, but get over it. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, or just nearly dead. Make sure you come out stronger!
3. If teenagers made judgements based solely on what their parents thought was best for them, they would all be pregnant druggies with fifteen different STDs.
4. Pixies-place is far cheaper than professional counselling, but not necessarily as effective
5. I like the number five too. But if I lost a finger I'd have another nine so I wouldn't be too worried.
6. You don't have to rush things. You'll have to use your intuition to guage when the best time to ask her out is, but don't do it if she's still getting over someone.
7. If it's meant to happen, it will. Relax. Relaaaaaax. Find that bit of your brain that likes to stress over things like this, and give it a nice cool brightly coloured drink with an umbrella in it. Send it to the mental equivalent of Bora-Bora, but with redheads.

Ok, so I've had a lot of sugar today. Doesn't mean what I said isn't worth reading, dammit!

Be happy, and keep us updated!
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Old 01-20-2004, 11:13 AM
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Seriously, life is about taking chances and you will get rejection but also you will get acceptances too.


Well I think we can count this one as a wash. There is nothing noble in trying to do the impossible. It only becomes foolish.
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Old 01-20-2004, 11:14 AM
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But isn't it like someone blaming an employer for not hiring them when they haven't even submitted a resume?
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Old 01-20-2004, 11:17 AM
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Pinkbutton,

I don't knwo if I really like this girl. I mean sure I find her attractive and I want to screw her brains out, but that can be said of just about any woman since I am pretty much known around as a man skank.

I would say man whore, but usually I only have sex once or twice a year. The notable exception was when I was seeing my ex-fiancee.

Anyways, I would be a man whore and my standards would be a bit higher if it were not for the fact that pretty much all women reject within seconds of me opening my mouth. I didn't send thi one screaming though and I thought I had a ghost of a chance.
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Old 01-20-2004, 11:18 AM
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The friend that told you she was not interested. Is that friend female? If the friend is then perhaps the friend is interested in you and is just saying that to put you off.
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Old 01-20-2004, 11:18 AM
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So, change what's coming out of your mouth then.
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Old 01-20-2004, 11:29 AM
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Lixy,

Well I have no money because I was stupid and went to college and graduated with an engineering degree last May.

I do have a part time job at a pizza place making $5.15/hr with no hope of a raise or promotion. In fact, I am begining to think that my calling in life is to wash dishes for a living becuase every time I get my hopes up about a job I only wind up getting let down.

The only comfort I find in this is that in six months I will be homeless and on my first day of being homeless I will kill myself. My mind has been made up and the die has been cast. Don't try preventing it becuase there is no return from being homeless. It is not like somone will walk by and after giving me change realize I am probably the most brialliant mind in the city. They will only see a smelly bum.

Besides I refuse to live in a world where I get picked on all through out high school and the only think that kept me going was that one day I would be a success while the stupid jocks wound up working at Walmart. Fuck, now I am the one with a shitty minimum wage job just months form being thrown out onto the street and they are the ones with good jobs, wives, families and getting to drive the newest SUV's. The worst part is that I see them everyday at my job and some of them recognize me and say "Hey aren't you that guy I used to beat up in high school? Damn we all expected you would be a doctor or a scientist by now what happned?"
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Old 01-20-2004, 11:36 AM
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Casper,

a) get your self-confidence up from the depths of that smelly swampland called Depression

It is hard to look on the bright side when you realize that your life has never gone right. It just seems like my purpose in life is to be laughed at and mocked.

b) show her you care, be supportive through her very difficult time, let her know you've got a caring, sensitive side that would be a nice comparison to the dickhead who dumped her

In my foolish youth, I tried being the knight in shining armor only to find out that the girl will always choose the douchebag. Heck, had one girl choose her abusive boyfriend over me and he wound up killing her in a domestic dispute.

c) plan how you're going to court her. It's a sad reality, but girls don't just decide to sleep with you for no reason at all.

No, usually they pick reasons like he has a big cock, he has a shitload of money, this guy will piss off my parents.

One has to seduce them, woo them, court them. It takes work, but so does everything in life. Wouldn't it be worth it, to have a wonderful loving relationship?

I don't know if I have the work output and put in long agonizing months jsut to fuck this girl. I mean a wonderful loving relationship would be nice, but hey I stopped believing in them when my fiancee left.
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^taps foot* Such negative waves! If you have no cash, how are you able to be on here? If there is no jobs there for your degree then go to a place where there is. Still seeing the high school bullies. Then learn Kung Fu.
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