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Old 05-23-2003, 07:24 AM
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Old 05-23-2003, 08:00 AM
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I agree Sugarsprinkles. Freedom of Speech is one thing, but blacklisting is another. I saw on the news the other day that just before the war started, the Screen Actors Guild sent a letter to the major studios warning them not to even think of blacklisting actors that spoke out against the war since they knew someone would and did.

I think all of it should be left to the fans. If the fans don't buy their music or see their movies, that will hurt more than anything else. The pocketbook always rules.


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Re: The Dixie Chicks AND Toby Keith.............




What ever happened to FREEDOM OF SPEECH????

Whether or not I agree or disagree with what they said, they had every right in the world to express their opinion. We all also have the right to buy or not buy their music. But I feel the radio stations continuing to boycott them months after their comments is nothing more than economic blackmail. I've stopped listening to my favorite Country music station because they are still refusing to play the Dixie Chicks music.

I watched the show last night.....I honestly didn't notice Natalie's shirt.

I think the entire audience was being juvenile by booing like they did. And if Toby Keith, whom I adore, left because of something as petty as letters on a shirt, then he's just as juvenile.

I think they ALL need to get over it. The Chicks have apologized, more than once. What more must they do? Wear Scarlet letters?
Go around in sackcloth and ashes? No matter what they do, they'll never satisfy everyone.
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Old 05-23-2003, 08:19 AM
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I remember another feud that happened.... remember Billy Ray Cyrus and Travis Tritt? I just think the Dixie Chicks are being watched and nothing they do will be right.
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Old 05-23-2003, 08:51 AM
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I just think the Dixie Chicks are being watched and nothing they do will be right.


Right, Cheyanne!

I think if the the media would just leave it alone, quit fueling the fire and if the Dixie Chicks would also stop calling attention to the controversy it would all blow over in time. Let the fans decide with their wallets.


joenj:

You're right...........this does smack of 1950's Hollywood blacklisting. And actually this is worse.............it's collusion by many radio stations to destroy careers simply because they disagree with the performers.

Since when is one group's FREEDOM OF SPEECH more important than another's????
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Old 05-23-2003, 09:02 AM
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Sorry SS, but freedom of speech is also granted to the owner's of the radio stations to not play the music. In my town, just like what was mentioned above they polled the listeners and out of 300 calls only 4 people wanted them to start playing the chicks again.

Thing we seem to have forgotten in this country is that yes we have freedom of speech, but actions have consequences.
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Cheyanne---The thing that I liked best about Travis Tritt,is that
he was,supposedly,instrumental,in getting "The Eagles"back
together.
Sugarsprinkles---You are far to intelligent,to actually think that
socalled "apology"was sincere.I can "act" better than that and I
CAN'T act!It's not right,but people always remember you for
things in the past.I carry a photostatic copy of my "record
annulment"in my wallet.The 15th of June,will be 11yrs.since I
touched alcohol,but to some people,I will always be the "crazy"
speed freak,hard drinking,and always in some kind of trouble.
People remember you for the past,not what you do now.You
just have to "move-on"!I guess the people in Jimmys audience,
with the FUDC shirts,must have been using their "Free Speech"
rights!There is a big difference between,free speech"&insulting.
You can use free speech without being hurtfull!
Serious---Thanks,That site was very informative! Irish
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Old 05-23-2003, 09:16 AM
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Old 05-23-2003, 10:21 AM
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Gentlefolk,

I may be old fashioned, but it seems to me that Ms. Maines et al have rediscovered some part of what wisdom may be found in Galatians 6: 7-10, which in some translations, reads “He who soweth the wind reapeth the whirlwind”.

The Dixie Chicks made a calculated gamble to pander to the crowd of the moment and are surprisingly (to me) still paying the price.
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Old 05-23-2003, 10:26 AM
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Thing we seem to have forgotten in this country is that yes we have freedom of speech, but actions have consequences.


Not for everyone, it seems. Jane Fonda, for example. What she did during Vietnam was so much worse than what the Dixie Chicks had to say. But look at her career in the years following. She continued to make movies, even won an Oscar. Then later she made millions, maybe even billions off her excercise tapes. Gotta love those consequences!!!!
Seems some of us can forgive someone for "aiding and abetting the enemy", but not others for simply expressing an opinion.
And the Chicks never said anything against our GOVERNMENT or against our MILITARY, only against the President. Seems to me that people have been expressing opinions against presidents ever since the first GW....George Washington.
Don't misunderstand me......I have never and will never forgive "Hanoi Jane" for her actions and statements against our government and most especially against our military men. I'm just using her as an example.

This is all I have to say about the issue. No sense beating a dead horse. And this will never blow over if we keep rehashing it over and over.
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Sugarsprinkles,

There are exceptions to all rules, including, if you’ll believe Kurt Gödel, the rule which states that there are exceptions to all rules.

Ms. Maines is being judged by the standards of today, while the excesses of Ms. Fonda occurred thirty odd years ago. As I recall, the scene was rather different then than now.

I am loath to describe that period as either better or worse than today, but it was definitely different.
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just going to say that Jseal, people are smarter and better informed now than in the 60's
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Old 05-23-2003, 11:16 AM
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People are better informed now,but I(my opinion)don't believe
that they are any smarter!All that I know is that I,or any of
the POWs,will never forgive or forget"Hanoi Jane"It's easy to
afford to look good,when you have Ted Turners money.Plastic
surgery isn't that expensive,with that kind of money.I rebuilt
the engine in the boat that ,supposedly burned in"On Lost
Pond",one of her movies.The boats in that movie,are owned by
a Pat Curtain(sp?)He owns the marina,between,the Burger
King&the Bonanza Steak House,in Laconia NH.Therefore,I know a
little about her! Irish
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Old 05-23-2003, 11:35 AM
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People are better informed now,but I(my opinion)don't believe
that they are any smarter!All that I know is that I,or any of
the POWs,will never forgive or forget"Hanoi Jane"It's easy to
afford to look good,when you have Ted Turners money.Plastic
surgery isn't that expensive,with that kind of money.I rebuilt
the engine in the boat that ,supposedly burned in"On Lost
Pond",one of her movies.The boats in that movie,are owned by
a Pat Curtain(sp?)He owns the marina,between,the Burger
King&the Bonanza Steak House,in Laconia NH.Therefore,I know a
little about her! Irish
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joenj---Yes,sorry,I stand corrected.As you can tell,I'm not a great
movie buff.Plus,your memory,starts to fade, when you reach my age.As long as my penis works,it's OK tho! Irish
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