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Old 07-24-2007, 07:47 AM
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This is just from my POV, I may be wrong but heres my opinion anyway.

If I were her, I'd probably have been put off by how 'keen' you were. By constantly hounding her to set a date, she's probably wondering why you're so eager. Everyone likes to be chased, but you need to know when to back off.
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I'm a mature man and I realize that it is entirely possible for a woman to not be interested in me. We call them lesbians.



I suspect this was not a serious comment...and it made me laugh my ass off.

If it was...well, RUN FORREST, RUN!!!!!
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:25 PM
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If someone is right for you, you won't care about stuff like that and you won't even care if she's beautiful (thank God Fussy didn't!) and she won't care about any of that stuff either.

Yeah, easy enough for him to say considering he has a beautiful wife.


The point remains, if a chick is into you, she will make things happen.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:27 PM
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I suspect this was not a serious comment...and it made me laugh my ass off.

If it was...well, RUN FORREST, RUN!!!!!


Of course I was joking about the lesbians! I don't think anyone over the age of 13 things "Oh she doesn't like me, she's gay!"

And well, if you spent all your time working on your career, and then decide to go looking for a wife at 40, you're only going to find gold diggers and you won't have any fun since you spent your life focusing on just one aspect of your life.
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Well unless you and Kenshin are one in the same person (in which case, why the hell are you giving yourself so much advice?) my comment was addressed to him, and the title of this thread in particular and since you'd not even responded to this thread, I have no clue why you feel the need to defend yourself.


I was being a smart ass, and that was impulse post before replying with something a bit more serious.

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As my opening line made it clear, I was making a gross generalization to show my objection to the generalization that 'all women play mind games'. If I truly believed what I said to be true of all men, I probably WOULD be a lesbian!


I wouldn't blame you. It's my repulsion at how men behave when it comes to romance that has caused me to turn strictly clitly.

Well, that and I was never really sexually attracted to men.

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Oh and just for the record, when I met the love of my life, online, we were both kind of seeing other people, he was living at home with his parents, was unemployed, had no drivers license or car, was on some pretty strong meds and didn't socialize much except online. Without issue I fell for him before we even met in person and we are currently living happily ever after. If someone is right for you, you won't care about stuff like that and you won't even care if she's beautiful (thank God Fussy didn't!) and she won't care about any of that stuff either.


But I think that making yourself more attractive, and forgetting about the myth of Miss Right is a much more rewarding path.
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This is just from my POV, I may be wrong but heres my opinion anyway.

If I were her, I'd probably have been put off by how 'keen' you were. By constantly hounding her to set a date, she's probably wondering why you're so eager. Everyone likes to be chased, but you need to know when to back off.


Exactly how am I too "keen"? I wasn't hounding her every day. I waited between a few days between talking to chat up type of deal.
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:53 PM
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Sometimes it is better to have a couple of lines in the water (openly and honestly) and sit back and wait for nibbles. Not every nibble is a strike, and not every strike lands a fish. If you want something too much, people sense it and back away, as to most people "Intense" equates to "high maintenance".
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Old 07-25-2007, 05:37 PM
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^^ that in itself is like a "dating game strategy" lol...exactly what i want to avoid by playing games hahah. I'll admit that yeah there is a certain logic to it.
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WTF is this now...just a moment ago she msn'ed me (I stopped talking to her since Sunday) and she msgs me saying "Have fun on your trip". She knew ahead of time that I'm going to Hawaii etc. So this is what I really dont' get? First she ignores me...and now she contacts me? Man this is UBER CONFUSING chick!

Should I even bother pursuing this at all or what?

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Old 07-25-2007, 08:50 PM
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If a guy expressed an interest in me, then blew me out, I'd take a few steps back, and leave the ball in his court, so that if he was trying to be kind, I'll know, and if something really did come up that meant he couldn't meet me, he could rearrange.

I'd never dream of constantly asking him if he wanted to meet. To me, it screams over keen, and I'd back off if someone acted that way towards me.

I think you need to take a few steps back, and leave the running to her.

She'll be in touch, if and when she wants, as you have just proven.
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^^ that in itself is like a "dating game strategy" lol...exactly what i want to avoid by playing games hahah. I'll admit that yeah there is a certain logic to it.
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WTF is this now...just a moment ago she msn'ed me (I stopped talking to her since Sunday) and she msgs me saying "Have fun on your trip". She knew ahead of time that I'm going to Hawaii etc. So this is what I really dont' get? First she ignores me...and now she contacts me? Man this is UBER CONFUSING chick!

Should I even bother pursuing this at all or what?


Well, you stopped talking to her. Of course, I wouldn't put any "OMG she must really love me!" vibes into this. It might be that she is really just being polite. Who knows maybe you will meet a girl in Hawaii, and have a good time (wink, wink, nudge, nudge).
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So she likes you enough to chat to you on MSN but doesn't want to be pestered for a date. Sounds like you've got yourself a friend. If you enjoy her company and your conversations on MSN, what's the biggie? I hate that a lot of guys don't seem to be interested in a girl unless there's the possibility that he gets to sleep with her. I'm assuming you're not in love with her, so stop obsessing about what every little thing she does might 'mean'.

Women are much more able to read between the lines than men - it's not about game playing it's just that they pick up on little things that give off warning signs to them. As Miss HB says she may have been put off by your keeness or you may have dropped something into your conversation that rings alarm bells in her head as to the kind of guy you are. To give you an example, I would be put off by your use of the word 'chick' just now - it says something about your attitude towards women, that personally, I don't like. It gives me an indication of how I might be treated in a relationship with you and it would not be acceptible to me. As I said before, this is not mind games, it's just that women are scientifically proven to be more able to judge an emotional situation and read a person's character than men. It's why men often think we are so bad at communicating what they've 'done wrong' during an argument - we are able to pick up on the slightest little thing, and men are not.
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When it comes to picking up on something I've "done wrong"...Mrs. WI has no problem at all communicating it.
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You know I stopped talking to her for a reason and that's because she gave me the cold shoulder regarding oh i'm too busy or whatever. If I go based upon what's been said that women are better at picking up and dropping signs then men ok...then it's quite obvious she's just being nice and not interested in anything more then friends. If that's the case I'm really not interested simply because of the fact that you don't meet on a dating site to be friends, you want something more and that's obvious otherwise why would both of you sign up in the first place?

Some might argue you meet up and get to know each other first (ie. friends) then move into the relationshiop type of deal. I've done that a few times and its a bit awkward for me cuz you're attracted to the person obviously enough to date'em but you're just friends type of deal...unless you're planning to be "friends w/benefits" which i'm not really into. I've got my friends which stay my friends. I've had a few of my friends want to get into something with me but I just told'em I don't do the friendship to relationship thing simply because what happens if you ever have a bad break up? Well it's called breakup by association at that point and you can't really hang with your friends anymore cuz they're her friends and yours type of deal. Makes it for a messy situation and drama.

You hang out with a "date friend" like that at a bar/club no girl is going to approach you cuz they think you're with someone. Just think about it...if you're dancin away and what not with your "friend" well hey wouldn't it come across that oh he's with someone already from a bystander's perspective?

I know some of you will argue and say that i'm overanalytical and should just go with the flow/emotion type of deal. But when I think about it that's the way I am, and I wouldn't change that part of me because it's gotten me out of dicey and messy situations and also helped me professionally gain a head up on others in my business. Call it a character trait if you will, that's been a boon and a vex to me hahah
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Some might argue you meet up and get to know each other first (ie. friends) then move into the relationshiop type of deal. I've done that a few times and its a bit awkward for me cuz you're attracted to the person obviously enough to date'em but you're just friends type of deal...unless you're planning to be "friends w/benefits" which i'm not really into. I've got my friends which stay my friends. I've had a few of my friends want to get into something with me but I just told'em I don't do the friendship to relationship thing simply because what happens if you ever have a bad break up? Well it's called breakup by association at that point and you can't really hang with your friends anymore cuz they're her friends and yours type of deal. Makes it for a messy situation and drama.



Just to make it clear, all of this is the kind of crap that doesn't matter when you love someone. I suggest you just keep going along through life and when you meet someone that you feel you can't live without and she feels the same about you, then there won't be any game playing, over analysis or caring about messing up a friendship. Until that time, there's no point in raking over things that aren't working. Relationships are not something you can 'figure out' or plan ahead of time, you have NO CHOICE but to go with the flow - it'll take as long as it takes and there's nothing you can do about it.
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Oh and just for the record, when I met the love of my life, online, we were both kind of seeing other people, he was living at home with his parents, was unemployed, had no drivers license or car, was on some pretty strong meds and didn't socialise much except online. Without issue I fell for him before we even met in person and we are currently living happily ever after.

Your honeybun's backstory almost mirrors my own, with the exception of me being employed and living on my own in an apartment that I have to slave for to maintain, plus an expired drivers' license and instead being on meds, I'm usually on a good bottle of shochu, which is almost as good as being on meds, at least for the gateway drug effect...

Do you have a twin sister or a female clone of yourself that would like to marry me?
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