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Speaking of people shooting at 'copters, did anyone hear why that was going on? I know no reason would ever be good enough but I was wondering about the mentality. Were they afraid they'd be forcibly removed from their homes?
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09-13-2005, 09:36 AM
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Steph my first thought was how many mentally ill have been off meds since the flood and are now living in delusionary worlds?
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09-13-2005, 09:40 AM
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BigBear57,
Interesting! I'd never have thought of that. Plausible.
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09-13-2005, 10:43 AM
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Good point, BigBear! You'd think that would have been my first thought living in this 'hood! I saw a big guy in an involved conversation with an imaginary person yesterday.
"How many cops do you think it would take to subdue him?", my friend pondered.
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09-13-2005, 12:18 PM
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Good point, BigBear! You'd think that would have been my first thought living in this 'hood! I saw a big guy in an involved conversation with an imaginary person yesterday.
"How many cops do you think it would take to subdue him?", my friend pondered.
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She's lyin'! Harvey & I were nowhere near steph's 'hood yesterday...
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09-13-2005, 12:31 PM
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She's lyin'! Harvey & I were nowhere near steph's 'hood yesterday...
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09-13-2005, 12:32 PM
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She's lyin'! Harvey & I were nowhere near steph's 'hood yesterday...
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Hmmm does Harvey have a brother?  |
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Speaking of people shooting at 'copters, did anyone hear why that was going on? I know no reason would ever be good enough but I was wondering about the mentality. Were they afraid they'd be forcibly removed from their homes?
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You know what I started thinking about... maybe they weren't shooting at the helecoptors.... cause not one of them got hit. Maybe they were shooting to let people know they were there and needed help, maybe they were affraid the help wouldn't find them...
Now mind you, if this is the case the people were not thinking of what the people flying them would think, nor would they consider they might hit the helecopter. But would you be thinking if you were stuck in your attic? |
09-13-2005, 12:46 PM
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Hmmm does Harvey have a brother? |
Well, see, Harvey insisted we go down to the Farmer's Market cuz he was outa carrots...
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09-13-2005, 12:47 PM
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Well, see, Harvey insisted we go down to the Farmer's Market cuz he was outa carrots...
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Ohhhhhhh I bet Steph likes carrots!  |
09-13-2005, 03:00 PM
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Speaking of people shooting at 'copters, did anyone hear why that was going on? I know no reason would ever be good enough but I was wondering about the mentality. Were they afraid they'd be forcibly removed from their homes?
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Pure unadulterated happiness....... :jump:
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09-13-2005, 04:20 PM
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Well, see, Harvey insisted we go down to the Farmer's Market cuz he was outa carrots...
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09-13-2005, 06:01 PM
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You know what I started thinking about... maybe they weren't shooting at the helecoptors.... cause not one of them got hit. Maybe they were shooting to let people know they were there and needed help, maybe they were affraid the help wouldn't find them...
Now mind you, if this is the case the people were not thinking of what the people flying them would think, nor would they consider they might hit the helecopter. But would you be thinking if you were stuck in your attic?
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This is the reason I heard from a freind of a freind who is on the NOPD. |
09-14-2005, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by calihotguy
.Meritocracy - the belief that one's success is determined by the strength of their merits
Some questions to think about:
- Who do politicians listen to, the rich or the poor? Do most politicians come from wealth or poverty, and in any case, where do they get their constituency from (campaign funding)?
- If you have no money and have become reliant on public transportation, can you afford a car
Were the rich whose homes were located in these areas happy about the poor having such easy access?
- Even if you are educated, if you have no means of getting to a job every day, could you get the job or keep it? Do you think the nepotism-centered rich wanted to help these potential competitors for said lucrative jobs?
..Next, you're somewhat limited but most people would say all you have to do is educate yourself and opportunities come your way.
. a public school district's funding is based on the taxes paid by those who live in that district
More Money:
1) New and up to date books
2) Educational resources
.3) More teachers who are also better paid,
..4) Overall environment of success
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Less Money:
1) Out of date text books
2) Worse facilities
(these kids, unlike the ones above, probably don't have computers at home and the ones at school are either out of date or non-existent). 3) Less teachers who are also underpaid and larger class sizes
.. it is easier to teach someone to pass a test than it is to teach someone life skills and how to learn,
4) Overall environment of failure
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What four-year universities look for:
- High GPA
- Extra curricular activities
.- High SAT scores: The SAT combines applied knowledge with analytical thinking, which can only be taught
.- The school itself: Many do not realize colleges have set up a ranking system for school districts and often grades candidates based on the competition at their high school
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The above is simply one scenario of millions, so think about it and figure it out for yourself what implications only this one scenario has on meritocracy, class struggle, and the position many of those in Katrina found themselves in.
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Im so pleased to have a senior Pixie step forward with such a well thought through and presented opinion.  The dilemma of class struggle is daunting enough when dedicated people of logic and ability are struggling to improve the complex issues. It only becomes more impossible when hampered within a system structure where the seats of decision and authority are filled with the asses of patronage. The events associated with Katrina is going to be debated for a long time and 90% of it will be game playing of rhetorical politics. Does anyone believe that it will not be viewed as a MAJOR political obstruction or opportunity that just has to be shoveled through and buried as soon as possible? Did Katrina form a handle for the people to finally get a hold on that will let you demand some accountability from ALL levels of government?
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Historically, elections, not hurricanes, have provided the handle the electorate have used to hold the elected accountable.
They may be an imperfect tool, but they are available to anyone who cares to use them.
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