But Fang, that's the point. You should try to find him dancing at the end on youtube or something. It was thoroughly disturbing. I like it .

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"BOY: On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses? GIRL: Will he offer me his mouth? BOY: Yes. GIRL: Will he offer me his teeth? BOY: Yes. GIRL: Will he offer me his jaws? BOY: Yes. GIRL: Will he offer me his hunger? BOY: Yes. GIRL: Again, will he offer me his hunger? BOY: Yes! GIRL: Yes. BOY: On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses? GIRL: Yes. BOY: I bet you say that to all the boys!" -Meatloaf

Nope sorry guys, not interested in Alice in Wonderland at all..A Disturbing Creepy Depp does nothing for me at all. I'll be giving it a miss. I'm still in therapy after the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory viewing. Didnt like that movie at all. Now the original CATCF i loved and still watch *L*

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Yeah, but who doesn't like Gene Wilder?

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"BOY: On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses? GIRL: Will he offer me his mouth? BOY: Yes. GIRL: Will he offer me his teeth? BOY: Yes. GIRL: Will he offer me his jaws? BOY: Yes. GIRL: Will he offer me his hunger? BOY: Yes. GIRL: Again, will he offer me his hunger? BOY: Yes! GIRL: Yes. BOY: On a hot summer night, would you offer your throat to the wolf with the red roses? GIRL: Yes. BOY: I bet you say that to all the boys!" -Meatloaf

The Oompa Loompa Liberation Army, that's who.

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I have no desire to see Alice in Wonderland with Depp...creepy doesn't even begin to cover it! Same happened with his version of Charlie & The Chocolate Factory. My husband brought it home on DVD and I had to leave the room in the middle of it...it was way too damn disturbing to watch!

We saw Ironman II last night, at the Drive-In...we really liked it. It was awesome! The Captain America reference was funny...and I got it even though I'm not a comic junkie My 6 year old son LOVED it too...he was like, "Mommy that was COOL!"

We also stayed for the short clip after the credits, thanks to a heads up we received from a friend before we left.

Our first movie though last night, was Shrek: Forever After. It was good...but not as entertaining as the previous Shrek incarnations. The previous movies at least held the attention of my 2 kids, but this one SO did not!

Ok, look, unless you read them with utter naivete the books for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Alice in Wonderland WERE DARK. The are fucked up. Dahl can churn out plenty of child friendly books but if you haven't read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory since you turned 8, perhaps its time to revisit it. It was a dark book. How can you see a description of a child: In the original novel, Augustus is described as an enormous boy who has "fat bulging from every fold, with two greedy eyes peering out of his doughball of a head." and not be disturbed?


Alice in Wonderland was written by "Lewis Carroll"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Lutwidge_Dodgson


The Dutchess' Lullaby
Lewis Carroll, 1832-1898

Speak roughly to your little boy,
And beat him when he sneezes:
He only does it to annoy,
Because he knows it teases.<truncated>

Seriously? The american idea of childrens' literature is very new age to say they can't handle the adult imagery most of the ones who don't understand it their minds edit it out and let it go, have you ever watched a movie or hell, Bugs Bunny cartoons as an adult and realized wait.... we WATCHED this? The fekking bunny was a cross-dresser!

Historically "childrens tales" have not been the consume sunshine and rainbows and poop butterflies type thing. Cinderellas sisters were said to have amputated portions of their feet to try to cram them into the shoes. If you want a good read pull Grimms Fairy Tales!


Father William

"You are old, Father William," the young man said,
"And your hair has become very white;
And yet you incessantly stand on your head—
Do you think, at your age, it is right?"

"In my youth," Father William replied to his son,
"I feared it might injure the brain;
But now that I'm perfectly sure I have none,
Why, I do it again and again."

"You are old," said the youth, "As I mentioned before,
And have grown most uncommonly fat;
Yet you turned a back-somersault in at the door—
Pray, what is the reason of that?"

"In my youth," said the sage, as he shook his grey locks,
"I kept all my limbs very supple
By the use of this ointment—one shilling the box—
Allow me to sell you a couple?"

"You are old," said the youth, "And your jaws are too weak
For anything tougher than suet;
Yet you finished the goose, with the bones and the beak—
Pray, how did you manage to do it?"

"In my youth," said his father, "I took to the law,
And argued each case with my wife;
And the muscular strength which it gave to my jaw,
Has lasted the rest of my life."

"You are old," said the youth, "one would hardly suppose
That your eye was as steady as ever;
Yet you balanced an eel on the end of your nose—
What made you so awfully clever?"

"I have answered three questions, and that is enough,"
Said his father; "don't give yourself airs!
Do you think I can listen all day to such stuff?
Be off, or I'll kick you down stairs!"

Child abuse anyone?

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Speaking of dark, though its more a musical..... Sweeney Todd with Depp was AWESOME. Granted I am of the personal opinion that Helena Bonham Carter got many Tim Burton roles through connection not talent but she was a very good Mrs. Lovett and not as traumatic as trying to watch Angela Lansbury playing that character.

hmmmmm I think I lost my copy of this movie in the divorce. damn.

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--Big damn heros Sir.
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In my youth my family would, from time to time, drive from Annapolis up to Baltimore to visit my Grandparents. On those occasions when we would visit my father's parents, soon after the ceremonial greetings were completed, and after paying our respects to Smokey (a slender, solemn cat who never seemed to age), I would ask permission to 'borrow' one of Granddad's books.

I do not remember the title, but rather the blue binding, the heft, and the musty, dusty odor of it. It must have been published in the 1920s, and Granddad had read from it to Dad. Filled with moralizing tales, prints, and poems about how to behave around whom, it was a glimpse into 19th century America, although I did not realize it at the time.

Not only did it include 'Father Williams', which Granddad delighted in reading to Jeffrey and me, but it also included 'The Goops', which was a favorite of my father.

"The Goops they lick their fingers,
And the Goops they lick their knives;
They spill their broth on the tablecloth --
Oh, they lead disgusting lives!

The Goops they talk while eating,
And loud and fast they chew;
And that is why I'm glad that I
Am not a Goop -- Are you?

The Goops are gluttonous and rude,
They gug and gumble with their food;
They throw their crumbs upon the floor,
And at dessert they tease for more.

They will not eat their soup and bread
but like to gobble sweets, instead,
And this is why I oft decline,
When I am asked to stay and dine!"

Now that my children are grown and off to make a better world for tomorrow, I reflect often on the good Father Williams, and what we may yet learn from his example.

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I really like this type of writing, it entertains and educates. A problem that I see with some parents today they do not discuss consequences or that some things are inappropriate because everyone assumes it will somehow break the childs spirit or stifle them. We have as a society, American is the only one i have experience in, started isolating our children from reality. Bad things happen, if we don't learn how to handle these things early then when we get older and suddenly we have to deal with it everything comes tumbling down on top of us and we retreat into ourselves because our reactions or lack of understanding scares us.

Of course I'm not yet a parent but I have helped raise a few children when you're on the parents payroll you tell them whatever momndad tell you to.

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To return to the World of Cinema...

There once was a talented film director named David Lean.

I have mentioned one of his films already, The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957), but he also directed several other films, the most often mentioned of which are, A Passage to India (1984), Ryan's Daughter (1971), and of course, Doctor Zhivago (1965).

All are worth watching.

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"There once was a talented film director named David Lean."

I could feel a limerick coming on.

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Ooooo Dr Zhivago....i absolutely love Lara's Theme from that..Awesome piece of music!

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You want an awesome song, One Winged Angel from FF7 Advent Children. The movie itself is great in and of itself.

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Somewhere in Time for the girls, The Battle of Britain for the boys.

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This one too is before the time of many, but Dr. No, the film that launched the 007 franchise, starred a very smooth operator Sean Connery partnered with the lovely, luscious Ursula Andress.

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