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Old 01-08-2004, 10:55 PM
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I'm with you Lixy.What fine upstanding do-gooder of a citizen dweeb deceided to call it a "SIN TAX" anyway?? Oh well in the mean time,this should give you a little smile. www.smokingparadise.com Now if yo'll excuse me,I've got a date with a Camel.
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Old 01-08-2004, 10:58 PM
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Slow Ride......You made it to the other side! I congratulate you and I envy you in one breath! Don't be too worried about the fucking tax......there are years ahead of us for the tobacco sin tax first! *kisses*

PF....I read and reread what you gave us.....and now I just wanna hug you! I just knew those bastards were up to no good with this money! It's saying...."Here! Smoke all you want so we can tax you a heap to build a building you can come to....but you can't smoke in"! OMG! We are asses! I'm more ashamed of being duped...than I am of being a smoker! TY for your hard work......and I am looking forward to your next installment!

silentsoul......I totally understood everything you said except the specs on the guns you have! LOL! Hey! I'm a girl! As to the use of pot as a medicine in contrast to non-homeopathic chemical meds....I hear you! It's been known for sometime that it's effects help many patients in many ways. Cancer patients who are on chemo have smoked it to be able to eat. It's a misunderstood medical wonder! No worries as to you "yabbering". It's why I started this thread in the first place! Not so silent after all...eh? *hugs*


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Old 01-08-2004, 11:27 PM
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you know, I never cease to be amazed by pixies. This place is terrific. In one place, people from all over the world can join together and express themselves freely. In the oldest of ancient rome, when all of the most famous paintings and sculptures were made, sex was simply a part of life, a big part actually. Basically, it was an all day everyday thing. Hang out by the pool, relaxing in the nude, seeing all the beautiful also naked people walking around, people would get horny. So they fucked, then and there like it was nothing. Of course being in a place where everyone is nude and possibily in the process of having sex, anybody would get horny. So basically, ancient rome was an orgy. How kick ass is that.Me personally, I would love for the world to become open enough to where anybody could have sex with any other consenting person any place any time. And as far as the whole "think of the children" line, it doesn't hurt them a bit if they don't see it as unordinary.

But obviously everyone already knows that we're all a bunch of nymphos but that we're open enough to express our true feelings about any subject, even the much debated medicinal marijuana is fantasitic.

Anyway, the wife just got home and all you tempting little sex kittens have made me horny so I'm gonna go try to sudece the wife. Wish me luck, maybe I'll even get some pics
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Old 01-09-2004, 12:09 AM
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Belial....LMFAO! It sounded more like a Dennis Leary rant......and just as funny! TY hun!



If I may be allowed to go off-topic for just one brief moment:

I believe Dennis Leary recorded a routine very similar to that one on his 1993 album No Cure For Cancer, however, it is (with some slight modification) ripped from Bill Hicks' work on his 1990 album Dangerous. Leary has curiously escaped public wrath for it, and other swipes from Hicks, though recently comedian and Fear Factor host Joe Rogan has called him on it.

..now, back to the topic!
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Old 01-09-2004, 05:50 AM
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Yes...I chose to smoke and so therefore I shouldn't expect others (especially non-smokers) to pay for it.

I said that ^^^.....last night....and I couldn't sleep for thinking about it. I told you earlier that I started smoking when I was 7y/o (technically I was 6....but didn't really inhale till I was 7).....and I kept thinking.....WHOAH! How did that happen? Did I really choose to smoke? I spose I did with a lot of peer pressure. But, knowing what I knew by the time I was 15 and fully addicted....would I choose to smoke then? I don't think I would! So, as a clarification....I do smoke, but I don't think you can say that at 7y/o....I chose to do it....and I especially don't choose to do it now. It chooses for me! I'd prefer to quit.....and if I ever can, I will!

OK...just wanted to say that aloud!

silentsoul......Oooooooo la la! *crosses fingers for your luck and therefore pics for us!* LOL!

Belial........I saw a roast for Dennis Leary once......and the "angry smoker's rant" he had done so many times.....was most often the initial topic of each persons roast! No one ever mentioned that he stole it though.....hmmmm.....well, I guess they wouldn't be THAT mean at a roast! LOL! TY for the info!

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Old 01-09-2004, 08:08 AM
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Cant stay out of this one

I am a dedicated non smoker.

I agree with special smoking areas in public places. Nothing worse than having foul smoke force fed to you.

I agree with no smoking at work except in nominated breaks, the non smokers keep working whilst the smoker takes 5 mins off for a fag.

I agree with taxes on cigarettes as they help pay the enormous cost that the results of smoking puts on the community through the burden on the health system and this is an avoidable thing, you dont have to smoke.

That said, I do not believe that smokers are evil and I know that nicotine is the most addictive substance in our world.

I have a great deal of sympathy for those addicted. My mother died of lung cancer caused by her lifelong smoking habit/addiction.

Also I often saw the results of smoking whilst i was servicing oxygen concentrator machines going to so many homes to see people on oxygen because their lungs were so damaged by the results of smoking. It is not a pleasant sight to see these people in obvious distress, no quality of life and an inevitable shortened life span filled with pain.

I feel very compassionate for these people and think that it would be a good thing if the tobacco industry was phased out.
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Old 01-09-2004, 09:21 AM
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Hey Lixy ...

I don't believe anyone has to worry about RJ Reynolds going out of business anytime soon. With declining sales in the US, they have all targeted and marketed to people of the third world countries for increased sales. And unlike the US, where advertising is banned or strictly controlled, advertising in other countries proliferates on a massive scale.

Jenna & PF - you mentioned the collected taxes being used for health care and educational issues. That's exactly what the Tobacco Settlement was supposed to do. I say was and supposed to because here in New Hampshire, as in other states as well I suspect, that money has been greedily siphoned off for other purposes.

I tend to view it this way ... when the government figures out how to tax sunlight, there will be rapid advances in the use of solar power.

(Climbing off soapbox now....)
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Old 01-09-2004, 09:55 AM
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Whenever a politician says they willl eartmark the taxes taken from one group and use it for paprticular purpose they are lying. At leat that is the way in the U.S. becuase all taxes colected at every level goes into a general fund and legislators then decide how it gets spent. (See I knew government class was good for something.)

So really there is nothing to stop the taxes on your cigartttes from going to corporate welfare, funding the CIA's drug suggling operations, war in Iraq or a congessional pay raise. Althought you can be certain the money made from taxing cigarettes will never go to pay for healthcare.

Here in Texas the only reason why we got a lottery was because George W. Bush said it would go to pay for education. To this date not a dime had gone to the schools. Well that is unless someone won the lottery and donated lots f money to the local school or built a huge mansion so that the property taxes collected would go up.
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Old 01-09-2004, 11:26 AM
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Lixy,........ I couldn't agree with you more, But.............. Like has been said, WTF can we do about it. I wish we had the answers. And yes "I am a smoker and I am not ashamed of it". I would like to and know I need to quit for health and financial reasons, but easier said than done.


Maybe someday I and/or we will be able to kick the habbit. Then see what happens!!!!!!!!! Fuck the government, everyone should quit then see them scramble to find how to tax us on something else so they can still have there yearly raises and unearned high wages.

And why should they get a pension after only 4 years in office, I don't unless I work for over 20 years, and that is only if it is an option.

Done for now!!!! (Sits back and lights up a smoke to calm down.)
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Old 01-09-2004, 12:01 PM
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CunningLinguist - I agree with you on the Texas Lottery. Don't we sometimes have the most backwards government in Texas? Please don't put all the blame on Bush though - Perry isn't too much better!

One more thing on the smoking subject from me: Our insurance costs do not go up because of the smokers of the world. Insurance goes up because some people refuse to get a job and take care of themselves and so therefore the taxpayers of the world are going to continue to pay medicare and medicaid and everything other damn thing that the government can think of in order to make the citizens of the US that don't do a damn thing elegible for healthcare. When I started at my current job I did not have any healthcare for about a year. However - every paycheck i received had money taken out of it for things that I personally have nothing to do with such as medicare. Now, having health insurance I pay an unreasonable amount a month becuase of the people that won't get their own health insurance and pay for it themselves and instead decide to waltz into a hospital and demand treatment. That is where your cost of health insurance comes from, and for lack of a better phrase - its fucked up!

People have been mentioning pot smoking throughout this thread. My opinion? HELL YEAH!! MAKE IT LEAGAL!!!

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Old 01-09-2004, 12:56 PM
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Paprclphd,

Well Bush was much better than the person before him, Ann Richards, who mistakenly thought she was governor of Lousiana and as such presided over one of the most crooked administrations ever seen.

I agree with you on the madicrae bit. I bust my ass at my job making minimum wage and still have to beg for money form my parents who I am still dependant on despite having just graduated form college. It breaks my heart to see at least 20 bucks form each paycheck go to somebody who doesn't have the drive to get off thier ass and actually work for a living. No, I amnot talking about wlefare mothers, but I am talking about fat cat CEO's who never worked a day in his life.

Take a look at who sits on the board of many major corporations. Most of them are board members of more than one corporation and even sit on the board with companies that are supposed to be in competition with each other. A few corporate leaders are elected officials or top people in government. Well if you can serve on the board for more than one corporation, then that proves board members don't do any real work.

And typically the people who sit at the helm of these larger companies were born into a position of power and prestiege.

I say we should start calling the president King George II (since he wasn't elected, but appoited), call the Supreme Court a Council of Elders, refer to the President's family as Dukes, Duchesses, Prinnes and Preincesses, refer to Senators as Lords and Ladys, and to Captains of industry as Barons and Baronesses.

Come on a titles of nobility are sorely needed in this country!
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About 3 years ago I was looking for a job. I applied for one job thay asked if you were a smoker I didn't think much of it at the time. But 2 years later I was looking threw want adds and there was a help wanted add for the same place and I noticed they said non smokers only.

Now if the add had said no about anything else people would be up in arms about discrimination but some how it's ok if they say non smoker only.
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Old 01-09-2004, 06:29 PM
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Booger,

Was it a company, corporation, a non-profit orginization or government entity?

I do know that churches can and will fire people for having a lifstyle they do not agree with. (Read: A Church can fire gays, swingers, drunks, and smokers for no other reason than what they do in their spare time without impunity.)
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