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Allowing a child under the age of 16 to witness a sex act is in fact child abuse (at least in this country) It's exactly the kind of thing that scars one for life, depending on his age and the circumstances.
I think you're somewhat insensitive Jude, to suggest that someone else's relationship (whom I doubt you truly know) is failing.
It is clear from other men's posts here on this thread that most men, do not in fact, think like you and it gets me to wondering whether your comments are just a reflection of your own sexual frustration within your relationship.....I don't know, I'm not there, but you seem to assume that women are out there making excuses not to have sex and that men can't live without it.
Relationships are hard enough, Jude, especially with a tiny baby to tend to, as you should know, so I don't think filling a woman's head with doubts about the strength of her relationship and the fidelity of her partner actually achieves anything other than messing with her head.
I'm always first to give advice to people on their relationships when they've asked for it, but I think before I type, and tread carefully as I'm aware that when I say things, I'm potentially messing with people's REAL lives.
Now, if you don't mind, I've got a PM to send to someone now, to make sure she's OK.
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I'm not a lawyer but I believe there is a difference between allowing a child to see a sexual act and a kid happening to witness a sexual act by walking out on his parents. I also think that's a large part of what's wrong with our society, thinking that a kid witnessing a sex act between his parents is going to fuck him up some how.
She has said it has been over thirteen months since they had sex last. The last time being when they conceived their daughter. To *ME* that's too long. If they're happy with it then fine more power to them and God speed. But if she isn't happy with it, then she should change it. I have only been pointing out that if a couple wants to have sex there are ways to do it. Sure it's not always going to be flowers and candle light, but life isn't like that. You should know that parents have to take time out for each other, to make room for each other. Sure that's hard to do with a new baby but if the relationship is important to you then you do it.
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04-23-2007, 10:49 AM
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I agree with WW. Unless there is a physical ailment or injury, it is usually indicative of some other problem.
I will not make a moral judgement on the merits of cheating except to say that if the relationship is a good one then cheating is a critical weakness in the partner that does so. If the relationship is poor, then both should address it!
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04-23-2007, 11:51 AM
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I saw my grandparents gettin' it on, and I'm perfectly normal. 
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04-23-2007, 12:45 PM
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I am so glad we're not debating that little premise.
The two halves of the statement may be totally unrelated.
BTW, bonjour Jacques.
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04-23-2007, 01:37 PM
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This thread is about cheating.
It is not about Mikaylasmummy's sex life, relationship, or parenting duties.
Let's get this back on subject.
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04-23-2007, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Aqua
This thread is about cheating.
It is not about Mikaylasmummy's sex life, relationship, or parenting duties.
Let's get this back on subject.
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Amen, Aqua!
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04-23-2007, 02:19 PM
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Though I am different from you,
We were born involved in one another.
For it was not into my ear you whispered, but into my heart. It was not my lips you kissed, but my soul.
Complete surrender should not just come at moments in which one faces overwhelming odds, but in the calm when it seems one is personally in complete control of one's life.
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04-23-2007, 03:54 PM
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Unless WI wants to tell us more about his Grandparents... 
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Put me on wheels and I'll turn tricks.
Clever? Nah, I ran out of that years ago. But if you find this, let me know, k?
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In memory of my friend skip...
Go then, there are other worlds than these
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04-23-2007, 04:21 PM
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I'll pm you about the red satin sheets & the mirrors over the bed.
You think I'm kidding. 
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Though I am different from you,
We were born involved in one another.
For it was not into my ear you whispered, but into my heart. It was not my lips you kissed, but my soul.
Complete surrender should not just come at moments in which one faces overwhelming odds, but in the calm when it seems one is personally in complete control of one's life.
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04-29-2007, 11:21 AM
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For all those that this does not concern I am sorry that you need to read this.
I may get banned or a warning so I am.
Jude30
I do not appreciate you commenting on mine and my partner’s relationship being “not a good one “because we do not have sex. You do not know the 1st thing about my relationship, so you have no right what so ever coming and say that we do not have a good relationship just because my partner and I do not have sex, there are alot more things to a relationship other than sex. Even though as much as we want to it's not possible. Yes it is classified as “child abuse " here in Australia, and even if it wasn't known as that I would never ever expose my child to that sort of behavior, it's just not right.
There are alot of things going on here with our child and his child that you wouldn't even understand.
I do not feel that I need to justify my relationship to you, I don't understand that you think that because a couple does not have sex for a certain amount of time that that is something wrong with there relationship, I don't know maybe there your beliefs and I do respect them if there they are but at the same time you cannot come in here and tell someone that there relations is " not good " or " going down hill " just because what is happening with it does not fit in with what you believe that is just dis-respectful...
For all those people that pm'd n regards to this issue, I thankyou for your support it is really appreciated that I am not the only one who thinks like this. So thankyou for your support.
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04-30-2007, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mikaylasmummy
For all those that this does not concern I am sorry that you need to read this.
I may get banned or a warning so I am.
Jude30
I do not appreciate you commenting on mine and my partner’s relationship being “not a good one “because we do not have sex. You do not know the 1st thing about my relationship, so you have no right what so ever coming and say that we do not have a good relationship just because my partner and I do not have sex, there are alot more things to a relationship other than sex. Even though as much as we want to it's not possible. Yes it is classified as “child abuse " here in Australia, and even if it wasn't known as that I would never ever expose my child to that sort of behavior, it's just not right.
There are alot of things going on here with our child and his child that you wouldn't even understand.
I do not feel that I need to justify my relationship to you, I don't understand that you think that because a couple does not have sex for a certain amount of time that that is something wrong with there relationship, I don't know maybe there your beliefs and I do respect them if there they are but at the same time you cannot come in here and tell someone that there relations is " not good " or " going down hill " just because what is happening with it does not fit in with what you believe that is just dis-respectful...
For all those people that pm'd n regards to this issue, I thankyou for your support it is really appreciated that I am not the only one who thinks like this. So thankyou for your support.
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Actually I have every right to say what I said. As long as I stay within the borders of what is considered acceptable speech I can offer my opinion and view point on any subject I want to. On any public forum there are going to be some opinions you disagree with or don't want to hear. If you don't want opinions on a certain topic don't talk about it and you won't hear something that upsets you.
Now if you would find a direct quote FROM me in this thread where I said your relationships wasn't good, or going down hill I'd really appriciate it. What I have said is that if a couple really wants to have sex they will find a way.
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04-30-2007, 03:46 PM
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Actually I have every right to say what I said. As long as I stay within the borders of what is considered acceptable speech I can offer my opinion and view point on any subject I want to. On any public forum there are going to be some opinions you disagree with or don't want to hear. If you don't want opinions on a certain topic don't talk about it and you won't hear something that upsets you.
Now if you would find a direct quote FROM me in this thread where I said your relationships wasn't good, or going down hill I'd really appriciate it. What I have said is that if a couple really wants to have sex they will find a way.
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You're right about this.
I've just got one thing to add: Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
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04-30-2007, 04:35 PM
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Jude30- You were very judgemental about her relationship and several people have mentioned this to me privately. While you do have the right to say whatever you feel (within Pixies' posting ettiquette), people also have the right to think you a jerk for having said it.
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04-30-2007, 07:44 PM
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Jude30- You were very judgemental about her relationship and several people have mentioned this to me privately. While you do have the right to say whatever you feel (within Pixies' posting ettiquette), people also have the right to think you a jerk for having said it.
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I'm perfectly willing to accept the consequences for my posts. If I sometimes come across as a jerk or an ass because my opinion is unpopular then I can either choose to keep quiet or I can live with what I've said. To be honest I've filtered every one of my responses in this thread through my wife, which I hardly ever do. But I've wanted to get someone else's opinion on whether I was being too harsh. There are a few posts where I had to soften what she's said for fear I'd come off as even more of a jerk than I seem to be gaining a reputation to being.
I honestly don't feel as if I have been judgmental about her relationship since I've said many times if it's working for them then that's fine but it would not work for me. I've been very careful to address my replies as they would apply to me.
Now I haven't once in any of my posts condoned cheating in her case which is the original subject of this thread. So if anyone cares what my solution would most likely be it would be this. After a month with no sex I would ask if anything is wrong. If I had done something to push her away. Knowing me though I wouldn't be polite about it the first time but would change my tune soon enough and honestly ask what the problem is and what I can do to fix the lack of physical intimacy. If that didn't fix the problem or there seemed to be a consistent pattern of no sex for an extended period followed by one time then a month without I would ask for some couples counseling.
My wife and I have a young daughter and live in a small house. Our daughter shares our room with us, something we really need to rectify. Until then though we decided a long time ago that the physical part of our relationship was important and we would take steps to keep it alive. Our living room floor has seen more action in the past three years than in the previous 15 years of our relationship combined. Any couple that wants to have sex can figure out a way to do it. I honestly think she is making excuses for why they haven't had sex in over 13 months. I also think that there are worse things in the world than for a kid to see his parents having sex. It happens, practically everyone I know has walked in on their parents. Besides the kid is nine, in the past 13 months he hasn't spent the night at a friends house, or gone to the movie with a friend? Are these not all valid questions and oppurtunities? I'm not trying to be judgmental with these questions I'm just trying to figure things out and offer solutions to their situation.
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04-30-2007, 10:07 PM
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1. Thanks for resorting to name calling quite the grown up thing to do.
2. Considering my first post on this thread was the fifth post over all and her first post on this thread wasn't until the 76th post I find it interesting that you think she's the only person I've replied to.
3. When a person posts a piece of personal information on a public message board it becomes anyones business who wants to make it theirs. It's that simple and I've stated it once before in this thread, if you don't want people commenting on your life don't post about your life. And once again for the reading comprehension impaired I'm not judging anyone's relationship only making statements on them based on my opinion and what they have allowed us to know about them.
4. If I had a martyr complex I could argue that I am the one being wronged here since all I have done is say that 13 months would be too long for me to go without sex unless there was a medical reason, and that any couple who wants to have sex can and will find a way. Yet making these two very simple statements somehow makes me a bad person. Not one person has offered a counter argument to these two statements. Only the accusation that I am somehow a jerk or rude.
Good thing I don't have (much of) a martyr complex and just I just think people are entitled to their opinions about me based on what I write here.
5. I have continued to post only because people keep directing posts to me personally. When I see my screen name in a post I tend to reply. There are two ways I'm going to not respond to this thread, one is that someone explains to me how a couple who really truly wants to have sex with each other can't when distance or health aren't issues, or people stop talking directly to me.
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