The Pilgrim Baptist Church in Chicago, the church where Gospel Music started back in the 1930s, burnt down on Friday night. Mahalia Jackson and the Edwin Hawkins Singers - among others - got their start there.

Interestingly, it was originally built as Kehilath Anshe Ma'ariv synagogue, only housing the Baptist Church since 1922.

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define Gospel Music please

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Lilith,

Gospel Music is often considered the fusion of hymns with blues. Thomas Dorsey, the music director of the Pilgrim Baptist Church is commonly associated with it. Click here, here, or perhaps here for additional reading.

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Hmmm I would argue that slaves who were forced into Christianity by their owners were singing gospel many years before that church came to be. I'd say plantations were the birthplace of gospel music.

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I woud have to agree with Lilith here even your first link states that "By a further arbitrary use of the term, however, Gospel music is considered to have begun in the United States, sometimes in the 19th century, first appearing in print in 1874 with the publication of Gospel Songs by Philip Bliss."

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There are so many things that slaves contributed to Americana but often those things were not officially sanctioned til they began to appear in the North where they became recognized by the whites such as the Quakers who were supporting the movement from blacks in the rural south to northern communities.

Jseal African American History is my very favorite thing. In fact,at some point I would love to teach it.

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The church played a major role in the development of gospel music....

It was the place where a base was set to promote it, where it gained a wider audience and many notable gospel singers propelled from. I believe the term was adopted as an affectionate one more than factual in order to give gospel music a home. Such is the same for country music and The Grand Old Opry.

Lilith,

Well, you did ask.

I gave what I and others consider to be a substantial answer, and provided references if you were interested. If you tend to an different point of view, more power to you.

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[QUOTE= Click here, QUOTE]

Your argument is very thin at best. Yes your eight references all include Thomas A. Dorsey but if you also look at the first link you referenced you'll note the first paragraph says

The word Gospel is an elision of 'God' and 'spel' (The old English for story). The genre is distinguished primarily by spontaneity and informality, qualities which, while sometimes arousing suspicion or unease, have been present since the very beginnings of the Christian faith. By a further arbitrary use of the term, however, Gospel music is considered to have begun in the United States, sometimes in the 19th century, first appearing in print in 1874 with the publication of Gospel Songs by Philip Bliss


so I guess my question is did how did godspel get published 25 years before Thomas A. Dorsey was born? Did Thomas A. Dorsey also invent the time machine and go back in time or did it fall threw a rift in time to be published.

P.S. nope emotions weren't running high wednessday night/thursday morning at all. Just observations that I have made from this thread and watching you in the past on this site.

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Steph,

When I presented my evidence in the form of unexpanded links, Booger referred to them as pointless. When I presented the same evidence, but limited to the particulars that were (and remain) the crux of the examples from the original references, his response was different. While it is clear that he remains unpersuaded by what the authors have to say, he did take the time to respond in kind. Changing how I presented what I had to say changed how he responded.

It is impossible to satisfy criticism both when I use links for my references and also when I do not.

It is true that Pixies Place still has many sexually oriented pictures, and I am only one of many who browse the erotic stories. That being said, in the Advice forum you may be surprised to find:

Lilith, in the Pixies Power thread is exploring “support in our efforts to change our lifestyle meaning things like habits (such as smoking or even financial spending), dietary changes, or exercise.” She also started the General Well Being thread, the focus of which is being healthier.

Lion started a thread concerning replacing the timing belt on his car. It is in a post to that thread that Booger expressed his opinion that if you look at the site as a whole that sex is only a small part of it.

wanderingsoul’s Those damn 'describe yourself' questions! is a thread where people posted suggestions on how to improve his profile on some personal sites - including web design.

LixyChick’s Softer Hands...Stronger Nails??? is about manicure.

Two recent threads focused on travel plan suggestions, several on particular physical ailments. I also think that is more appropriate to view some of the threads as relating to romance, rather than sex.

In the General Chat forum the ratio of sexual to non-sexual threads is even more heavily weighted towards the non-sexual. I’d go so far as to suggest that most of the threads there have a non-sexual focus. That could be interesting to determine, although it might be difficult to decide what exactly is a “sex thread”.

Most of the threads in the Games forum are not sexually oriented, although we often take advantage of the opportunities that become available.

Given what I’ve listed above, as to Pixies being a sex site; I’m sure you don’t mean to suggest that that limits the extent of our community, do you? I’m minded of something GingerV once wrote as part of a post “… That Pixies is a wonderful open sexual playground is great, but if it was nothing but naked folks I'd have moved on a long time since …”. I tend to agree with that position. I think that many other long term members do also.

You and I march to the beat of rather different drummers. While I find the personal posts you and PantyFanatic make about me a bit of a bother, there’s little I can do about them, and so I carry on as best I can. I do suspect that those posts are among the reasons that others here often fear having their personal ideas challenged and so don't speak up. All I can suggest is that you try to not let my different point of view upset you so much. In the same vein as BIBI’s response to someone’s complaint about finding a timing belt thread at Pixies, ”LMAO...why let it get your knickers in a knot?”.

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Here ^^^ is where jseal and I both agree, "pompous" or not.

I support our rights to have different perspectives, ideas, and experiences...and I think it's one of the things that made Pixies Place a great place to be...back in the day. But recently I've felt my honest ideas and opinions are a lot less welcome...and I may not be the only one.

<sigh>

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