
04-30-2004, 02:27 AM
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Not sure if yall head this
But California is trying to pass a bill that states, if a parenty or adult is driving a vehicle. or riding and there a children present they cannot smoke in the car, or else a cop can pull them over and give them a fine. Something along the lines of neglect or something..
How do yall feel about this and why?
it was a topic on a local radio station where I live today. was quite interesting to hear some of the PA residents calling in and voicing their opinions on it.. would like to continue it here.
I personally am a non smoker so i wouldnt have an issue.. but i mean.. i don't think its a problem anyways. put the damn window down and all is gravy =)
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04-30-2004, 09:22 AM
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I think it's a good idea. I'm a non-smoker myself as well. It's one thing to subject yourself to it, but children shouldn't be.
With the window down, I don't think it'd matter, but lord, I know some people who are chain smokers, and were through their pregnancies. My neice has a perpetual "cold". Runny snotty nose, cough, the works. Oddly, when she's out of her mother and grandmother's place for even a few hours, it clears up.
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04-30-2004, 12:43 PM
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I think that it's a good idea. Because second-hand smoke is dangerous enough as it is, and to have small children in a closed in space like a car with the smoke is very harmful for them. And just opening the window will not help, because as children should be in the backseat, smoke can just blow right back on them. I see this law as protecting the innocent children that don't have a voice and can't protect themselves from the second-hand smoke of their parents.
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04-30-2004, 01:09 PM
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I don't think its a matter of smoking, it's a matter of rights. I myself smoke, I chose however not to do it in my home or around my kids. It isn't my place to tell another parent what to do around their own kids. And kids are everywhere, are they just going to ban smoking everywhere? In your home?
And secondhand smoke...well I won't get into that but the facts that people always use aren't exactly "facts". Don't take that wrong, smoking can kill. That is a fact.
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04-30-2004, 01:12 PM
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Personally, on a side note i think its just more of a way for the state to wean money from its people.. by pulling them over with these fines, which will obviously increase each time it happens. And yes.. putting down a window in a closed space like a car completely and utterly gets rid of the smoke.. Believe me as a non smoker i know this to be true.
I lived half of my life in a household where my father and stepmother smoked at least a pack to 2 packs a day. I never had a single heath issue until i moved out and in with my mother and step father in the city, neither one of them smoke. But i got bronchitis which led to chronic bornchitis which then led to asthma from just changing from open country air to closed city... Dc is not a healthy place to live..
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04-30-2004, 01:18 PM
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It is a matter of rights. The right to breathe air that isn't being filled with carcinogens by a cigarette being smoked right next to you. When someone smokes, that smoke can affect those around them. I think those that don't smoke have a right to NOT be subjected to that.
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04-30-2004, 01:22 PM
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I think it sad that it has to come to a piont where legislatures feel someone needs to rescue children from their parents, again. I don't smoke, I don't like smoking- but to each his own. There are far worse things people do to themselves. But again to each his own. But when laws have to be enacted to prevent people from harming their own kids- I thinks it is sad. When people become so obsessed with doing 'their own thing' at the risk of their children! It's sad. So sad.
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04-30-2004, 01:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Aqua
It is a matter of rights. The right to breathe air that isn't being filled with carcinogens by a cigarette being smoked right next to you. When someone smokes, that smoke can affect those around them. I think those that don't smoke have a right to NOT be subjected to that.
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Yep you do in fact have the right to punch the next guy who lights up and blows it in your face. Well maybe you don't have that right, but I think you should!
As far as your right not to breathe in carcinogens go, you do realise that wood dust and talc (like from baby powder) are all classified as carcinogens also. I would hate to be fined next for putting powder on my kids butt.
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04-30-2004, 04:51 PM
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I think that people,should worry more about what they do,then
what others do.I used to smoke(two pks of Camels a day)I quit,
cold turkey,over 30 yrs ago,but that was MY CHOICE! Irish
P.S.Quit cigarettes over 30 yrs ago.Quit alcohol 11 1/2 yrs ago!
I'M NOT GIVING UP SEX!!!!
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