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Old 01-10-2009, 07:19 AM
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The Australian Government

Now that I have your attention I thought I would let you all know what the australian government has decided to do in regards to policing web service.

Our main internet provider is telstra who started off as telecom, before they got their hands on internet they were just a phone company....still are.

Their division of ISP is called bigpond. (www.bigpond.com) Now our idiots over in Canberra have decided to invade our privacy of our own internet access by having monitoring systems in place. Basically as soon as you look at a porn site it blocks you. They haven't put it in place as yet as there will be plenty of protest against it. I believe the main reason for this "dragnet" of sorts is due to the high level of child porn wankers that we have here.

The most recent being some police officers who are meant to be protecting people from these sort of monsters, and also we have had quite a few priests hiding in the "closet" as well who have also been caught.

The worst thing is, the software that they are going to use does not distinguish between porn, "naked art" and I dare say even this site, with it's moderate level of adult material. But I think this site will be safe for us aussies as it is foremost a forum so the only way to look up the adult stuff is to be a member. Oh the perks of membership....gotta love it.

The only way they could use this software is have it within the ISP main server.

Now if the house of reps decide to pass the bill, then the aussie network of net users will drop quite quickly. The other issue of course is doctor's and those in the medical field who need to use naked pictures for reference etc would also be denied access for their med exams and the like.

The coming months will interesting to say the least.
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They'll probably have to watch each site,to distinguish if it is Porn or not.
Then after they wipe off thier pants,they will make a dicision(sp?)Mind you,
this is only to protect you!(sic) Irish
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:57 PM
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From an objective point of view there are good points about this. As you mentioned it's an effort to catch the bad guys. They're just trying to catch the laws and regulations up with the technology. The idea behind the action is decent. The plan of execution has quite a few kinks (and I don't mean the fun ones). This might be the right time to try coming up with a better plan and submitting it to your government. I don't know how that would work over there, but for me I would write a letter to my congressman with another idea. You might try them using stronger parental controls to keep the underage thing in control. I'm not sure what you can do for the adults. The best parental controls I tried to get through was MSN. I couldn't do it. AOL was a sinch.
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Old 01-10-2009, 06:47 PM
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From an objective point of view there are good points about this. As you mentioned it's an effort to catch the bad guys. They're just trying to catch the laws and regulations up with the technology. The idea behind the action is decent. The plan of execution has quite a few kinks (and I don't mean the fun ones). This might be the right time to try coming up with a better plan and submitting it to your government. I don't know how that would work over there, but for me I would write a letter to my congressman with another idea. You might try them using stronger parental controls to keep the underage thing in control. I'm not sure what you can do for the adults. The best parental controls I tried to get through was MSN. I couldn't do it. AOL was a sinch.



Well LS, our equal to a congressman is an MP (minister of parlament). IE7 has parental blocks in place, the thing with that though is to make sure your kids don't change the settings back is to make them a limited user via the user accounts in control panel.

Once your kids turn 18 you simply change it back.

I understand why they want to do it, and part of me agrees with it, however as I mentioned it won't distinguish between one from the other, unless of course they look at the library of urls in our internet browsers and deem what they think is "child porn, porn" or just "naked pics" for medicinal reasons or as "art".

The funny thing is child porn websites don't actually exist for the obvious reasons as it is against the law and anyone who has a website that contains child porn is arrested and sent to jail.

So what are they really policing? I just think the gov'ment wants to show how imcompetent they are by wasting tax payers money on something that is not really needed. They do it all the time here. We have real idiots working here and what's more is we put them there. So what does that say about us?
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We will see if this goes ahead or not, i have my doubts, even ISP's are saying this is not practical and refuse to trial it. To have every person censored it would slow the net down. We are already quite a ways behind other in this department, we need to be speeding it up and dropping cost, not the other way around.

If the seriously think this will stop the determined sicko bastards, the are mistaken, if they cant get it through the internet, they WILL find others ways or get around the filter someone, that is a given thing.

And again it will be the decent porn people who will be penalised because of the sickos!!

There will be an uproar if they put this in place, of that i am sure!
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....I understand why they want to do it, and part of me agrees with it, however as I mentioned it won't distinguish between one from the other, .....So what are they really policing? I just think the gov'ment wants to show how imcompetent they are by wasting tax payers money on something that is not really needed. They do it all the time here. We have real idiots working here and what's more is we put them there. So what does that say about us?

America is the BEST!!!

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One to assure that they have taken charge and everything is under control with all their power and resources being brought into action while the other one screws the bulb into the faucet.
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So what does that say about us?


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Old 01-11-2009, 06:15 PM
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We have real idiots working here and what's more is we put them there. So what does that say about us?


I most certainly didn't put the current heads in there i might add!! I know what its says about the ones who did though *L*
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:11 AM
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Every government has their idiots. I agree that the people who aren't sickos would be penalized and those that are would just find another way to get it. I saw in a movie a company specifically designed to search for porn and block out the bad sites for parental controls. They could do that and instead of searching for porn in general to block make it where they block what they legally define as "child porn". I would also like to reiterate, you could always come up with a better plan and send it to your minister of parliament. Complaining is fine, but not coming up with another solution doesn't help.
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Complaining makes me feel better, i'm entitled to do it so i will.

I have another solution but i'm darn sure they wont like it, when they catch em shoot em, not let em back out to do it again!!
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Complaining makes me feel better, i'm entitled to do it so i will.

I have another solution but i'm darn sure they wont like it, when they catch em shoot em, not let em back out to do it again!!


Well why do you think they have the 2 mug shots? One is from the front and the other from the side showing them leaving.....They had them right there and let them go.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:34 PM
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Orli, I hate to say this but even disgusting perverted sickos should get a fair trial. After the fair trial if they are convicted, then you can fry the guy. I also agree that complaining does make you feel better (I know it does me), but it still doesn't solve the problem.
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They get a trial here, i was not suggesting otherwise, but then they let the bastards go (after a wee stint in prison generally)...wtf is with that! Then the fuckers go do it again.

If i wanna complain i bloodywell will. Again i gave my solution, if they dont want it, then they can damnwell listen to me complain about it!

I also didnt vote the morons in that we currently have, so yes that gives me the right to complain about the stupid shit the government is doing.

If ya have an issue with my complaining, which it appears you do..too bad so sad. Go tell someone who cares
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This could work out good for you Sharni. It may give you something to start working on between net allocations periods. If you and Mark really have an issue with government actions and are serious about making a concerted effort to do more than bitch, you may want to begin finding others and setting plans. You know it will be like shoveling shit against the tide to really have an accounting to the people for deeds done by any power structure anywhere, but it does happen even to the most powerful and abusive institutions. Go ahead and google "China, gang of four" to see a bit you wouldn't have expected. I've been told that sincere belief and action had a lot to do with my country coming into existence and many others as well. This could be a chance for you to steer thing back in a direction you believe in.
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