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Originally posted by Jwilliams
First of all, lets get the truth out. The Bush admin. never claimed to have knowledge of an Iraq/911 tie. They claimed a tie to Bin Laden and his al Qaeda network. When the 911 commission released its findings, it said that while there was no evidence of an Iraq/911 tie, there was however a tie between Iraq and Bin Laden/al Qaeda. I've heard liberals scream that Bush is a liar but not once have I heard a replay of President Bush or any of his administration say that Iraq was involved in 911.
Moores film does not speak the truth. I have no problem with a liberal view or a view against President Bush but make sure you speak the truth if you're going to cut him down. Moore makes the claim that President Bush knew about 911 before but wouldn't do anything about it for political gain. That is absurd. The war on terror/Iraq is not a political gain. It very well could be the reason Bush would lose. I also don't hold Clinton too responsible for not leading a war on terror. Without the backing of the people, no president can wage war. I don't believe Moore is honest, I believe that his hatred of the president should make people sick.
Oh, as for the WMD's...The president had his own CIA director tell him that is was a "slam dunk". He had Britian intel saying Iraq had WMD's. Russia even believed he had WMDs. I personally believe he had them. Maybe not to the extent of what was thought but he had them. Remember the hatred Saddam had for Bush? Saddam knew the political ramifications of the Bush claim of WMDs. It wouldn't be above Saddam to move them to Syria to try to hurt Bush. He had them, he agreed to get rid of them. He refused to provide evidence he had gotten rid of them. The burden of proof was on Iraq, not us. Ever been afraid of the police searching your car if you didn't have anything in it?
One more thing, quit worrying what all other countries think of the US. Germany is primarily responsible for 2 world wars and France has bowed down to them twice. Their opnion of us doesn't bother me too much and it shouldn't you either.
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The administration has been playing a clumsy game of semantics since this fiasco began. Bush may never said outright that Iraq had a hand in the 911 attacks, but the administration has stated repeatedly that there is a strong connection between bin Laden and Hussein, when in fact the two dispise each other and have completely opposite agendas. For the president to repeatedly state that this connection was there in a justification for a war during a time when the U.S. population was emotionally raw.... well it isn't too difficult for anyone to figure out what would be inferred by anyone who hadn't looked into it at all.
I saw the Moore film and don't recall him ever stating that Bush knew about 911 before it happened and allowed it. It has been reported by several internal and external sources that the president was made aware of the possibility that an attack on U.S. soil was being planned and that it simply wasn't a priority for him. Political gain? I doubt it. Sloppy? Possibly.
Bush has proven that he can continue a war dispite the vast majority of the world being against it. He has never wavered. Never questioned. Never, to my knowledge, even granted an audience to hear out these concerns and maybe give pause. That is what disturbs me the most about this entire situation. It almost comes across as a stubborn child stomping his feet and demanding that he is right, pointing at anything to distract while never really answering many of the questions posed to him.
I have never been afraid of the police searching my car and don't believe that Hussein was afraid. However, I have dealt with ignorant police officers that make unreasonable demands simply because they feel they have the right to based on their position. If not kept in check, my initial reaction would and has on rare occassion been to resist, become indignant and fight for my rights.
I'm not worried about what other countries think about us except to the extent that this simply gives radicals another excuse to say that the U.S. is a bully.
At the end of the day, I am simply concerned about my own conscience and I point out what I believe to be inconsistancies within our country's leadership. A "war on terrorism" being the excuse for war against Iraq? The guy was a murdering ass, killed his own people, but was not a terrorist. Inconsistancies also in looking at going to war with Iraq over North Korea (a country that has nuclear capability). A war with Iraq to ease suffering over there?.... what about the thousands and thousands being killed in the Sudan or a half dozen other African countries, Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan both are havens for terrorists. This war was not about taking out a bad man.
I'm still amazed that it seems there was more time, energy and discussion spent examining a lie about a man's sexual choices and indiscretions than over a man who ordered a war waged and thousands of innocent lives lost.
Fred