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Old 04-05-2004, 08:30 PM
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In all honesty, I don't think I've ever even heard of the group. What outrages me is that this woman has had children taken from her for child abuse, and was coked up and drunk when she was giving birth. Whether she did or did not heed medical advice about when to have her babies, she completly disregarded they the babies were living beings at all, when she snorted and drank her way to the delivery room.

Other articles I've found state that the woman's ex-husband (and father of the surviving twin) says that the only reason she didn't want the c-section, was because she was afraid of what might happen when they drew blood and found the toxicants in her blood stream.

Another article shows her quoted as saying she never refused one in the first place, and would never have done so on the merits of a scar alone. She said she'd had a previous c-section, and already has the scar.

Now, there's no doctors stating whether or not she did have one, and nothing more than her word to go on. Personally, people all over America, regardless of state, have thier children taken away for parental neglect, abuse, and drug use.

I admit, I don't know all the facts, but my thoughts are this: If she had neglected that child alive and caused its death from physical neglect rather than medical neglect, she'd be tried for it.

If she gave her 2 year old coke and alcohol, she'd be tried for it.

She did all this in utero, sure, but if any person in America can have thier kids taken away after they are born for the same practices, why can't something be done to stop a potentially harmful situation before they are born?

She has the history. She was put up for adoption herself at birth, because the mother was mentally retarded, and couldn't raise a child.

By 12, she was in a mental institute.

A few years ago, 1 child is taken away after she punched the child in the face.

Now, she's got 1 remaining child that originally came in a set of 2. The remaining child was addicted to alcohol and cocaine at birth. Now, my guess (and yes, just a guess, I've found nothing to support this one way or another) is that the reason the dead child died, and had a low heart rate for so long, is likely in conjunction with her drug and alcohol abuse.

I do agree that a woman's body is her own. She should have the right to decide what to do with her body.

But that baby shouldn't have had to suffer because she wanted to get high in the first place.

Personally, I think people with a history of drug abuse, child abuse, mental abuse, and anything else that is potentionally harmful to a child, should be made sterile and their children given to the millions of people out there who want a child, and can't have a child.

Gah. I'm sorry, I'm ranting and raving, and being all opinionated. I know not everyone views things the same, and the last thing I'd expect is for that to happen. So, yeah, I got a bit preachy, but it's just my opinion, take it or leave it.
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