The perspicacious onlooker will indubitably note that the semantic maneuvering that Scotz has observed in Oldfart's post has produced, ipso facto, a parallel vacuity in several of Scotz' own responses on this thread and elsewhere. Perhaps such a reader will deduce a codependent production of simulacra: each post gleans from the previous a measure of obfuscation which it then imbues with its own essential raison d'être, thereby attaining new heights of verbal turbulence. It is this author's firm belief that such linguistic contortions are generated not through a philanthropic desire to enlighten and uplift the populationi of this fine establishment, but rather through a machismo-driven sociopsychological urge to triumph over one another in that most supreme measure of verbosity, the 'post count'. Perhaps it is time for these fine gentlemen to eschew such barbed ineloquence in favour of simplified communication in their new joint business venture, the marketing and construction of the patented Slippery-Dip to which mention has elsewhere been made...?

( You guys crack me up. ROTFLMAO@you both! ... )

--- sweetstuff