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Old 01-29-2003, 04:05 PM
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Couple of things to follow up on:

Irish: not sure what your point is about a 18 or 19 year old not knowing the UCMJ...Personally, I did when I was 18. Then again, I was training to be an ossifer, and well, I am the exception in that I was hyper-aware of issues within the military. For the average 18 y/o enlisted grunt, your statement is certainly true. My original point in bringing up the UCMJ was that, even with it's existence, it's very difficult, almost to the point of impossiblity, for a field grunt to use it to refuse an unlawful order. You seemed to be in agreement. This is why I'm not sure what you're getting at.

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Originally posted by LixyChick

^. I didn't mean to make it seem as if I were "male bashing". I was stating a fact........That until fairly recently......and from the beginning of mankind (humankind)....the decision to fight (in lieu of finding another way of solving the problem at hand)....was a male decision. Estrogen never had a vote.


Never felt it was, (male-bashing) LC, since what you said is generally true...but the case is not as abosolute as you make it out to be. To whit (and, wow, did I ever have a hard time checking out my facts here, to be sure I got them right).

Among the Seneca peoples, it was exclusively the role and power of the Women's councils to appoint war chiefs, to decide how and when war parties would be formed, how much and when to supply the war parties, etc etc. There is therefore, at least one example of a decision to go to war being in the hands of women. And, yes, the Senecas fought numerous wars before the advent of Euorpeans on the North American Continent. My only point here is really to say that once again, the problem is with the makers of policy, whether they are male or female.
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