Thxs for all the replies, given me stuff to consider....and for the record was not talking about me in undies, though it has been known (long story)!

Although it may sound as though I want this just for my benefit, well if I could convince her to wear some stocking I would be very appreciative......but it is also because I think my partner would benefit from a bit more openness, maybe realise that pleasure of many different types & ways can be had, as there is stuff I am pretty sure she would really enjoy if she would just be willing to try it.

She has indicated that she may be willing to try some stuff after a few drinks.....but she wont have a few drinks cos she does not like the drunk feeling, just have to keep going with the softly softly approach and see what happens, but going on my 16 marriage this can mean waiting a lot of years for not alot of progress!!

Ah well,

Langley