dzbuster---I know where you're coming from with AA!Like most
things;some people need it and some people hate it.I was one
of the ones that disliked it.A few years ago;the State mandated;
that I attend counseling&3 AA meetings;a week;in order to get
my operators license back.I lost it for 30 days(first offense;actually
first time;CAUGHT)The only thing that saved my sanity;was that
the Third Chapter motorcycle club;attended 2 Rochester meetings
& 1 Barrington meeting.As my wife said-You don't tell those guys;
to go to a meeting!They go because they want to.Otherwise;they'
d tell you to shove it.At least;I had someone;that I could relate to!Some people said that they went to the meetings;so that they wouldn't drink then.I thought"If that's all that keeps you from
drinking;you've got more problems then AA can handle!" Irish

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Irish---Better to be dead & cool,then alive & uncool!
(Harley Davidson & the Marlboro Man)