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Jude30 10-08-2008 05:43 PM

Max Hardcore sentenced to four years in prison
 
Story here.

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/10/0...m-director.html

I especially like this part:
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So, to recap, in the Land of the Free: if you’re an adult who produces a film using other consenting adults, for the entertainment of still other consenting adults, which merely depicts fictional acts of humiliation and degradation, the DOJ will prosecute you and send you to prison for years. The claim that no real pain was inflicted will be rejected; mere humiliation is enough to make you a criminal. But if government officials actually subject helpless detainees in their custody to extreme mental abuse, degradation, humiliation and even mock executions long considered “torture” in the entire civilized world, the DOJ will argue that they have acted with perfect legality and, just to be sure, Congress will hand them retroactive immunity for their conduct. That’s how we prioritize criminality and arrange our value system.


I'm not a Max Hardcore fan. But where do we get off in this country sending someone to jail for selling something to people who want to buy it?

scotzoidman 10-08-2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jude30

I'm not a Max Hardcore fan. But where do we get off in this country sending someone to jail for selling something to people who want to buy it?

There's a whole shitload of drug dealers sitting in prison wondering the same thing :wink:

jseal 10-09-2008 05:55 AM

True. Add to that list the selling of various types of firearms.

gekkogecko 10-09-2008 02:38 PM

So, the judge in this case found the defendant to be "flip" and "unapologetic".

...totally ignoring the fact that he has nothing to apologise for, and that the obscene, humilitating, and degrading acts here were the ones perpetrated by the legislature, the prosecutor & the judge.

Oldfart 10-09-2008 04:05 PM

It's the same logic which sends a kid to jail for stealing a couple of hundred bucks from an unlocked car, but corporate criminals who "misuse" millions get a suspended sentence.

jseal 10-09-2008 06:35 PM

Well, one might ask if there is, even in principle, anything at all which qualifies as obscene. If nothing does, then Mr. Little is the victim of an injustice. If these productions of his might be obscene, then surely that is the reason for a trial, is it not?

scotzoidman 10-09-2008 08:08 PM

I'd say Max got his pecker in the wringer over that gray area, between violence in mainstream movies = multi million ticket sales, but violence (even fictionalized) in porn = long stretch in prison. If he's a criminal for making the flics, what should happen to the people that pay good money to watch & enjoy same flics?


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