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Sharni 12-13-2004 03:40 AM

Australian ~ World first
 
Drivers tested for drugs in world first
16:56 AEDT Mon Dec 13 2004

A world-first random roadside drug testing facility took just 15 minutes to detect its first alleged drugged-driver in Melbourne on Monday.

Assistant Commissioner Bob Hastings said police did not know what to expect when they began testing on Monday in Whitehall Street, Yarraville, in Melbourne's inner-west.

"We turned out here this morning with the expectation of not quite knowing what to expect really, and it was surprising that so early we got some driver who tested positive," he told reporters.

"We will crank this up as we move towards Christmas and focus on those areas where we believe there's high usage of illicit drugs."

Preliminary tests on a man, who appeared to journalists to be aged in his 30s, returned positive results to methamphetamines, or speed, at 11.15am (AEDT) on Monday.

The man, who was driving a white van, was just the fourth person to be tested after the roadside station began operating at 11am.

He returned positive results from both a roadside saliva swab and a second more detailed test in the police van.

That sample will be sent away for laboratory analysis which will take 14 days.

He will not be issued with an infringement notice until the results of the comprehensive laboratory test are available.

A second man on Monday returned a positive sample to speed at the roadside test, but the following analysis in the police van turned up negative.

Drivers who return a positive sample to preliminary tests would be provided with a sample, which they can have independently analysed, a Victoria Police spokesman said.

If the final laboratory test results are positive, a traffic infringement, $300 fine and three demerit points are issued.

If the matter is contested in court, there is a possible $600 fine, and up to six months licence cancellation where a conviction is recorded.

LixyChick 12-13-2004 05:39 AM

So...now you can't do drugs as well as not drinking and driving? I've a feeling there's gonna be lots MORE road rage!

Ahhhhh...sorry! It's early and I shouldn't make jokes about this situation anyway! Sorry!

But this sentence gave me the giggles...

Quote:
"We will crank this up as we move towards Christmas and focus on those areas where we believe there's high usage of illicit drugs."


We call crystal meth..."crank". And, don't all illicit drugs get you "high"?

Oh geezzzzzzz...ok, I'll stop now!

Sharni 12-13-2004 05:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by LixyChick
Oh geezzzzzzz...ok, I'll stop now!



Good idea

LixyChick 12-13-2004 06:04 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharni
Good idea

It's early...and already I had a good idea? Damn, I'm good!

*giggle*

PantyFanatic 12-13-2004 07:05 AM

lmao@ Lixy :D

cowgirltease 12-13-2004 11:08 AM

I'm sorry but I don't agree with this. If they don't have probable cause to stop you it should be illegal.

jseal 12-13-2004 11:31 AM

cowgirltease,

This may be one of those "different country, different customs" culture clash things we have here at Pixies. :)

Irish 12-13-2004 02:10 PM

As a recovering alcholic & former(lighter)drug user,I agree with CGT.I know
that MANY disagree with me,but I see it from BOTH sides! Irish
P.S.By lighter,I mean no heavy drugs.Only Pot,pills,etc.Except when others
were offered to me FREE.

Sharni 12-13-2004 04:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by cowgirltease
I'm sorry but I don't agree with this. If they don't have probable cause to stop you it should be illegal.

Well it isnt illegal

Police have every right to do random breath testing for alcohol.....they just extended it to drugs...and good on them

I know if it happened to be one of my family members some driving deadshit on drugs or alcohol killed because he/she had dulled senses, i prefer them off the road than that chance ever happening

Why should it be illegal to pull you over?? If you havent done anything wrong then they will soon let you go....it amazes me that ppl seem to blame the policeman when all they are doing is trying to make the roads a safer place to be

I think its a brilliant invention and am extremely proud that Australians appear to care enough to have got it up and running

*NOTE: I am not anti drug....except when you take ya drugged ass and put it behind the wheel of a car...or ya think its your god given right to steal from hard working ppl to feed YOUR addiction!

Lilith 12-13-2004 04:19 PM

I think the main difference is that here in the US police must have probably cause and random screening is illegal where as in Oz it is legal. It's part of the illegal search and seizure clause we have here. I think people who are in no shape to drive shouldn't and am grateful to the cops who stop them from hurting people.

Sharni 12-13-2004 04:29 PM

I didnt realise its illegal in the US...interesting....bet that makes it difficult for the poor police

But the title does state Australia in the title....and ppl need to realise that not all countries follow the US lead

Here you can be pulled over at anytime...

Lilith 12-13-2004 04:48 PM

Yeah....I think it's interesting how what is considered a basic right in one place is not even a question in another. Is what makes this big globe so cool. Do you know what is the legal limit for alcohol while driving in Oz? Here is varies from state to state.

Sharni 12-13-2004 05:19 PM

Queensland

Holder of learner or provisional licence and aged under 25 years:
Zero BAC

Holder of learner or provisional licence and aged 25 years and over: Below 0.05 per cent BAC

Holder of an open licence: Below 0.05 per cent BAC

Holder of a licence when driving or in charge of a truck, bus, articulated motor vehicle, B-double, road train, vehicle carrying dangerous goods, taxi limousine, tow truck, pilot vehicle, and public passenger vehicle or a vehicle while it is being used by a driver trainer to give driver training: Zero BAC

I think the other states are the same except:

Western Australia

Probabationary drivers:
.02 per cent

South Australia

Learners and Probationary drivers no matter what age:
Zero Bac

Perhaps those members from other Australian states can add to it.....Queensland is my state :)

Lilith 12-13-2004 05:39 PM

very cool....I like how your area takes a driver's age/ length of time driving/ type of driving they do in to consideration

Scarecrow 12-13-2004 05:44 PM

Sharni, as has been stated, it is illegal to do random stops, so the police will do a road block stop, in which they stop everyone for safety checks and Driving Under the Infullence(DUI) of alcohol. There are also a lot of little laws that they can stop you for such as not using your turn signal or not wearing your seat belt.

P.S. Legal limit is .08 in Illinois


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