Public Announcement
 

The following celebrities have betrayed America during its time of need
and are on a boycott list being circulated...
Their products will not be purchased, we will support them no longer!

from www.webster.com :
One entry found for betray.
Main Entry: be·tray
Pronunciation: bi-'trA
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from be- + trayen to betray, from Old French traïr, from Latin tradere

Date: 13th century
*3 : to fail or desert especially in time of need (our preferred definition)



1. Martin Sheen
"George W Bush is a moron"
2. Alec Baldwin
would leave the country if Bush were elected president
3. Jessica Lange
"I despise him (GW Bush)"
4. Sean Penn
“(Bush) seems to be willing to sacrifice the children of the world.”
5. Susan Sarandon
"We stand a chance of getting a president who has probably killed more people before he gets into office than any president in the history of the United States."
6. Ed Harris
"we’ve got this guy in the White House who thinks he is a man"
7. Woody Harrelson
“This is a racist and imperialist war"
8. John Cusak
"The war and repression that has been loosed on the world by the Bush administration"
9. Mike Farrell
"Our leaders in Washington are out of step with millions of Americans. Inspections Work. War Won't"
10. Robert Altman
"This resent government in America I just find disgusting"
11. George Clooney
"Bush is a warmonger who wants to invade Iraq."
12. Barbara Streisand
"How could such a destructive man be so popular with the American people?"
13. Tyne Daley anti-war agitator
14. Ed Asner anti-war agitator
15. Bradley Whitford Artists for Winning Without War Signee
16. Danny Glover
condemned President Bush and "his administration of liars and murderers."
17. Casey Kasem Artists for Winning Without War Signee
18. Sally Kirkland Artists for Winning Without War Signee
19. Oliver Stone NION Signee
20. Sheryl Crowe
"I think war is based in greed"
21. Michael Moore Waging battle to smear Pres. Bush
"the (9-11)passengers were scaredy-cats because they were mostly white"
22. Harry Belafonte Called Colin Powell an "Uncle Tom"
23. Jane Fonda Need we say more?
24. Tim Robbins
"we have seen our democracy compromised by fear and hatred"
25. Kevin Spacey
"If we did what [Bush] is talking about doing, we'd go down a road from which we would never recover and which would start a chain reaction around the world. I live in the hope that it won't happen."
26. Joan Cusak anti-war agitator
27. Gillian Anderson Artists for Winning Without War Signee
28. Kim Basinger Artists for Winning Without War Signee
29. Jennifer Aniston
"Bush is a f#cking idiot"
30. Jackson Browne Artists for Winning Without War Signee
31. (REM)Peter Buck and Michael Stipe Artists for Winning Without War
32. Ed Norton
"I hope the world community will continue to voice itself and apply pressure on the U.S. government"
33. Don Cheadle Artists for Winning Without War Signee
34. Jill Clayburgh Artists for Winning Without War Signee
35. Peter Coyote Artists for Winning Without War Signee
36. Kevin Bacon NION Signee
37. Matt Damon Artists for Winning Without War Signee
38. Vincent D’Onofrio Artists for Winning Without War Signee
39. David Duchovny Artists for Winning Without War Signee
40. Olympia Dukakis Artists for Winning Without War Signee
41. Charles S. Dutton Artists for Winning Without War Signee
42. Hector Elizondo Artists for Winning Without War Signee
43. Cary Elwes Artists for Winning Without War Signee
44. Mia Farrow Artists for Winning Without War Signee
45. Laurence Fishburne Artists for Winning Without War Signee
46. Chevy Chase Bush Basher
47 F. Murray Abraham NION Signee
48. Janeane Garafalo
"Our country is founded on a sham"
49. Melissa Gilbert Artists for Winning Without War Signee
50. Elliott Gould Artists for Winning Without War Signee
51. Robert Guillaume Artists for Winning Without War Signee
52. Ethan Hawke Artists for Winning Without War Signee
53. Eric Roberts
Considers the president "fascist" and a co-conspirator (with Osama bin Laden)
54. Helen Hunt Artists for Winning Without War Signee
55. Anjelica Huston Artists for Winning Without War Signee
56. Samuel L. Jackson Artists for Winning Without War Signee
57. Jane Kaczmarek Artists for Winning Without War Signee
58. Melina Kanakaredes Artists for Winning Without War Signee
59. Tea Leoni Artists for Winning Without War Signee
60. Wendie Malick Artists for Winning Without War Signee
61. Camryn Manheim Artists for Winning Without War Signee
62. Marsha Mason Artists for Winning Without War Signee
63. Natalie Merchant Musicians United to Win without War Signee
64. Dave Matthews Artists for Winning Without War Signee
65. Esai Morales Artists for Winning Without War Signee
66. Ed O'’Neill Artists for Winning Without War Signee
67. Chris Noth Artists for Winning Without War Signee
68. Alexandra Paul Artists for Winning Without War Signee
69. CCH Pounder Artists for Winning Without War Signee
70. Bonnie Raitt Artists for Winning Without War Signee
71. Carl Reiner Artists for Winning Without War Signee
72. Tony Shalhoub Artists for Winning Without War Signee
73. Julia Roberts
"The man's embarrassing. He's not my president and he never will be either"
74. Marcia Strassman Artists for Winning Without War Signee
75. Loretta Swit Artists for Winning Without War Signee
76. Natalie Imbruglia Artists for Winning Without War Signee
77. Lily Tomlin Artists for Winning Without War Signee
78. Heath Ledger
"It is a fight for oil and screw it "
79. Robin Williams
"He's like 'We have to get rid of dictators,' but he's pretty much one himself"
80. James Whitmore Artists for Winning Without War Signee
81. Alfre Woodard Artists for Winning Without War Signee
82. Noah Wyle Artists for Winning Without War Signee
83. Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream NION Signee/ANSWER $$ Backer
84. Dustin Hoffman
"I believe the administration has taken the events of 9/11 and has manipulated the grief of the country"
85. Richard Gere
"Bush's plans for war are a bizarre bad dream"
86. Spike Lee
"the German and French gov'ts should be commended"
87. Barry Pepper
"We're going to send our boys and girls overseas to kill -- and that's pretty sad."
88. Martin Scorsese Bush Bashing At Berlin Filmfest
89. Rosario Dawson
"I'm frightened by the patriotic mood sweeping the United States
90. Fred Durst & Pearl Jam Bush Bashers
91. Chryssy Hynde
"Have we gone to war yet? We deserve to get bombed. Bring it on. I hope the Muslims win!"
92. The Beastie Boys Anti-War Song During War
93. Dixie Chicks Need We Say More?
94. Viggo Mortensen NION Signee
95. Hugh Grant NION Signee
96. John Cougar Mellencamp Released anti-war song on website
97. George Michael Musicians United to Win without War Signee
98. Ani DiFranco
"It's hard to wake up every day with a feeling that you are ashamed of your country
99. Madonna NION Signee/Anti-War Video
100. Lou Reed Musicians United to Win without War Signee
101. Eric Benet Musicians United to Win without War Signee
102. Sandra Bernhard
"The real terrorist threats are George W. Bush and his band of brown-shirted thugs."
103. Renee Zellweger
Why are we going to war? I'm confused!!
104. Greg Germann Anti-War agitator
105. Jeremy Piven NION Signee
106. Peter Boyle
“I'm Afraid of Bush”
107. Robert Redford
Bush is pursuing a dangerous and self-defeating path... and Bush offers an absence of leadership...
108. Johnny Depp
"America is dumb"
109. Harrison Ford
"I regret what we as a country have done"
110. Richard Dreyfuss
Anti-Bush ad campaign
111. Al Pacino
Anti-Bush ad campaign
112. Bruce Springsteen
"It's time to impeach the president"
113. Ben Affleck
"The Bush administration has continued to push a dangerous right-wing agenda"

Source:


http://www.winwithoutwarus.org/
http://www.notinourname.net/index.html

A Public Apology and Denunciation of their Statements is Required
to be considered for removal from the list

Please forward this list to other Americans so that they can be made aware of who they are supporting when they go to the movies or the movie rental store.

Don't support those that abandoned America in her time of need.

Once again you got it ack basswards...These are to good guys.The truth sayers,the people we should be listening to.I have heard what most of them had to say and I agee wholeheartedly. No apologies or denunciations necessary.Support America's need for a regime change...Before it's too late.

Bush has a history of being able to raise lots of money and then not be able to manage a business. The same thing has happened with his Presidency. The country has the largest national deficit ever, yet Bush has set a new record for the most money raised for political campaigning. :rolleyes:

I'm gonna use this list... I think I'll start with renting a Martin Sheen flick....

Just so that people will know-"I" didn't get it backwards.This is a
reprint of the Pabaah website.If someone disagrees with you,it
doesn't make them wrong!That's why there are cars of different
colors.Everyone believes something different.It's also why this thread is called"Public Announcement".It is just information! Irish
P.S.Different strokes,for different folks!

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just because certain "celebs" dont agree with the man that is President of our country doesnt mean we should send their comments to everyone under the sun like gossip. Celebs are people just as we are. What about when Clinton was in office? Imagine the comments that were said then from all kinds of people. People will always talk.. whats new?

You or whomever originated this BLACK LIST is asking good people to pass it along.I think that is wrong.These people not only have a right to their opinion,but a responsibility to wake the American people up to the REAL dangers in our land.So you consider your self a conservative republican,well fine.But these people are far to the right of even you.They are FASCISTS man.Get real...Listen to something other then Fox 11 and Clear Channel.This is getting scarry for the rest of us........... P.S. I too have signed the NION Petition as well as Ramsey Clark's Petition th impeach Bush.I have signed up as a member and contribute money to the ACLU,Amnesty International,People United for the Separation of Church and State as well as others.

Scary. Very scary.

Shades of McCarthyism. *shudder*

Irish,

Don't sweat the small stuff...

...and that's 113 lines of small stuff.

Many people didn't like Clinton, many people don't like Bush. Don't be influenced by the Hollywood names. They're that same names that also failed to prevent the recall of their Govenor.

Considering the current state of this stupid war, I agree that these people are the real heros.

I will respectfully counter Irish's post with the following letter from NRA Blacklist:

It's not countering my post,it is another"Public Announcement!
I hope my name is on that list!I'm an NRA member.Not for guns,
but to protect the Second Amendment.
Again,I will say,I'm NOT a Republican.My wife& I are registered independants. Irish
P.S.We have always believed in voting for the person that we like,
reguardless of the party!

I'm confused.

Is there some question about the right of people to have

differing opinions?

Oldfart,

I’d like to think not. That being said, one of the more unsatisfying aspects of contemporary democratic politics is the tendency of people to demonizing their opponents. That coarsening of the political discourse makes it, in my opinion, more difficult to address the large number of very real and very difficult issues with which humanity must come to grips.

Alas, America seems to be in the vanguard here. Then again, Americans are not known for their self-restraint.

OF---In the normal language,that means that you hit the nail on the head!(MY opinion) Irish

I have a few words for those that made this list...and they are not pleasant.

Yet for our current president I am very concerned for the future. I have been following closely what has been happening. Of late that has troubled my mind has been the consideration of developing Nuke bunker buster bombs and the possibility of nuclear testing. What causes me to fear is the acceptance that a "nuke" could be considered a battle field weapon. How soon would a "nuke" intended for deep earth penitration be considered for above ground us to destroy mobile formations?

The cancellation of the ABM treaty is another cause for concern and the insistant developement of "Star Wars" missile defense. Why would some third world power spend billions on developing the damn things and then many hundreds of millions more on a delivery vehical. It would make more sence for these countries to smuggle the things in to their targets and all the Darth Vaders atop orbiting Death Stars wouldn't matter for all the costs involved.

But of the current Iraq conflict--it was a fools trip made by the King of Fools. The military planning was near perfect--but the peace winning aspect leaves much to be desired. Sadly we have lost creditability with our own allies. In the future if a real threat comes along, just how supportive might they be to deal with a real threat? Now with North Korea we have but to hope that China of all countries will have to come to our aid top resolve this issue--anyone remember that little spy plane of ours that found its way on that Chinese island?

Granted many of these people mentioned in this list are flakes to be sure, but nevertheless had G. W. Bush listened to a few others outside his own inner circle our armed forces wouldn't be used for target practise this day.

All I can say is thank God I have no son--but as I sit here I weep in my soul for those whose sons live this nighmare now.

Very interesting!
 

You say that as if you thouhgt he had the capability.:confused:










:rolleyes:

I've been in the sand and prayed for the aircrews I launched into the night, and wept when one didn't return. 12 hours latter word was sent the plane had barely made it to safety with all alive. I've loaded flag draped coffins onto aircraft, and wept for someone's loss. I don't agree with some opinons, and remeber that all those who serve do so to portect our rights. Free Speech means to disagree sometime and even to burn/shit/ect. the flag I hold dear. Think of those lost and still over there

I really thought long and hard before deciding to respond to this thread. And defending it was certainly not my first impulse.

I disagree 100% with what Irish posted. I think it's patently unfair and un-American to attempt to blacklist those that have differing viewpoints. The McCarthy era is long gone, and good riddance to it!

I spoke my mind in the old thread about the Dixie Chicks. These performers are every much entitled to their opinions as Irish is. No matter how much we may disagree with either side.


I'm not sure to whom I should attribute this quote, but it goes something like this:

"I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

I just hope that the younger members of Pixies don't lump all of us Baby-boomers or just-a-shade-older-than-Boomers into the same pot. We don't all think alike. We're all just as confused about what's going on in the world as everyone else, we've just had a longer time to pefect our confusion.

I also agree that people are allowed to have an opinion and voice it.

For me the jury is still out on Bush, he certainly is a hawk not a dove and people certainly should speak out if they feel that there is something wrong happening.

Nazi germany would not have got going if the people stood up to be counted before Hitler assumed control and whilst I am not saying Bush is in any way to be compared with that crackpot, democracy is alive and well when people voice their opinions and are free to do so.

One of the many 'freedoms' of this great land of ours ..... and yes it is great!! ..... is the freedom of speech. Never silence those with different opinions because someday it may be you and no one will listen.

I didn't read the list closely but skimmed over it glancing at the names. Some I've never heard of. But number 78. Heath Ledger caught my eye. I'm pretty sure he's from Australia. Are we governing peoples opinions in other countries too??

And terribly yummy;)

VERY yummy indeed!!

I'm boycotting this thread, just to make my point.

Oh shit - did I just post that? CRAP!

Re: Very interesting!
 

pantyfanatic,

Thank you for providing an example of the point I was making. Comments of this nature are often called "ad hominem", being directed against one's opponent, rather than remaining focused on the issues. They add little or nothing to the debate.

This particular one includes a common mistake: that democratically elected leaders rule by dictat, like a king or despot. By specifying an individual, you imply that that individual is the "one" to address the issue. This is obviously false. Both in the tripartite system of government we employ here in the States, as well as the parliamentarian governments in the UK, Canada, and Australia (to single out only three nations), power and responsibility are distributed beyond a clique or oligarchy - thank heavens.

If one honestly believes in personal freedom, then it is injudicious - extremely so - to damage the tool provided to maintain it. That tool is the political dialog, which is at least wasted and at worst damaged when misused.

The absolute nadir is exemplified by the ant-abortionists; who think that because they believe that because they believe in something so very much that they are entitled to kill someone else. These people are, in my opinion, indistinguishable from terrorists. I, for one, resent giving up any of my liberties to the organs of state in the name of national security; when it – the FBI in this case – “needs” these intrusive tools to pursue and interdict these “true believers”.

Ah well, there are no utopias…

I would like to ask a question,without starting an argument!
I now live in NH.We have Metrocast cable,because the town,
signed a contract,with them.(No Choice,if you want cable,you
MUST use Metrocast)lakritze,lives in Calif.,according to his avitar.
He has suggested,that I watch,something other than Fox 11 or
Clear Channel.What are they?We have ,at least,3 Fox channels:
1:Fox network2;Fox News3:Fox Sports.Those are the only Fox
stations,that I'm aware of.As far as Clear Channel,I never heard of it!What is it?I have heard that there is a Fox station,on the radio,but I don't know what the call letters are.Again,this is not to
be a wise-ass,I really don't know.My daughters(another town)have another cable provider.(Comcast?)When my wife or I,babysit
,we are completly lost.No TV GUIDE channel,so we just have to go
thru every channel.Theres,not much,worth watching,(my opinion)
anyway,but with hours to kill,you have to do something! Irish

Re: Re: Very interesting!
 

This brings to mind a quote from Benjamin Franklin:

"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety."

Oh man... its getting to the point where you need a Master's degree to understand some of these threads. Having no clear understanding of what jseal just said, all I can add is: "Why can't we all just get along?"

teddy :)

PS: Halloween party at my house!! No politics allowed...... Just good sex. omg, lets hope Fairy-bird doesn't read this. lol.

btw -- I give out the 'good' candy and great costumes get something 'extra'. So, I want everybody to kiss & make up, let this thread die and start partying.

I know this is serious stuff and shouldn't be swept under the rug, but there's No need to PM me & tell me I'm way off the mark or an air-head or whatever. It just seems this is not the place for this discussion and it's gone on long enough.

Now back to that # 78 Heath Ledger ..... can't we just think about him instead? mmmmmm..... no costume required Heath, just come on over.

That is the issue from MY prospective.
 

I guess I provided more examples of what this is about than I was aware of at the time. And I did make a terrible PC error in using “he” in my query as to whether the specie, not an individual, is capable of addressing valid matters concerning it’s well-being and development, as opposed to it’s obsessions with internal conflict.

I apologize to jseal for my fauxpas and thank him for validating my premise of hupeopleities inability to look beyond itself.




(gosh, I hope that’s the proper new word:confused: )

'hupeopleities' isn't in my 1970 edition of Webster's.....

Guess I'll ask Santa for a new dictionary.

Bahahaha!!! FOX almost sued itself! :D

Fox nearly sued itself over 'Simpsons' parody: Matt Groening
Wed Oct 29,12:28 PM ET

NEW YORK (AFP) - Rupert Murdoch's Fox News Channel threatened to sue the makers of "The Simpsons" over a parody of the channel's right-wing political stance, the creator of the hit US television show has claimed.
In an interview this week with National Public Radio, Matt Groening recalled how the news channel had considered legal action, despite the fact that "The Simpsons" is broadcast on sister network, Fox Entertainment.
According to Groening, Fox took exception took a Simpsons' version of the Fox News rolling news ticker which parodied the channel's anti-Democrat stance, with headlines like "Do Democrats Cause Cancer?"
"Fox fought against it and said they would sue the show," Groening said.
"We called their bluff because we didn't think Rupert Murdoch would pay for Fox to sue itself. So, we got away with it."
Other satirical Fox news bulletins featured in the show included: "Study: 92 per cent of Democrats are gay... JFK posthumously joins Republican Party... Oil slicks found to keep seals young, supple..."
While the lawsuit never materialized, Groening said some action was taken.
"Now Fox has a new rule that we can't do those little fake news crawls on the bottom of the screen in a cartoon because it might confuse the viewers into thinking it's real news," he said.
"The Simpsons," featuring the dysfunctional family of patriarch Homer Simpson and his rowdy brood, is now in its 14th year and is expected to become the longest-running situation comedy in US history in 2005.

Irish,It seems that we are both experiencing a shrinking consolidation of the media.Do you have only one cable company to choose from? So do I.Aldelphia swallowed (not in a good way) up the smaller cable companies around here while that crooked Regis family was still ran it.Irony is the only competition is the DISH network.Fox 11 is KTTV channel 11 and Clear Channel is a company that has swallowed (Not in a good way) up most of the comercial radio stations from coast to coast that we listen to.Around here both have gotten the reputation as the official gov't news and propaganda stations. Both have become synonomous with giving one point of view and not providing any alternative views on a given subject.I have to ask,If there ever was a "liberal media" out there somewhere,where did it go? where is it now? It all seems to be run by the major corporations who's views are anything but liberal.I hope you never take what I write here as personal attacks,it is not my intention.But I feel I must challenge what is being said though.

Irish,

I think that what he is suggesting is that the Fox network has a distinctly limited range of coverage, and that you would benefit by including other news sources.

Permit me to suggest the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/), as that provides a non-American view of the world. Additionally it is very current and well written.


Pantyfanatic,

No apologies needed; it is possible for reasonable men to disagree. It is the incendiary statements which fly all too readily these days which I find distracting.

Teddy Bear,

I expose my ignorance: who is this Heath Ledger? Serious beefcake, I presume?


Steph,

Love it! One of the members here has a sig that goes something along the lines that it takes brains to appreciate parody but not to be offended by it. Fox proves the point.

lakritze---Thanks!No,we don't have a choice,in what Cable Co.
we get.The town signed a contract,with Metrocast,so it's the
only one,that anyone in this town,can get.One of my Sons-in-
laws,is an installer for Comcast.He is also,my workout(spotter)
partner & friend.I would much rather have his company because
if,he knows that it's for me,I get immediate service.Plus,his company truck,is stocked with everything,that could be needed on the road as he also troubleshoots.It's the same situation,with
the banks.The neighborhood banks have all been bought by the
giant Banks. Irish
P.S.I STILL have him check everything& do my wiring!

I will have chocolate...oops! I dropped some right here (points to her breast):D

a little help please;)


btw Sharni I hate vanilla but I'd lick it off you:p TY

How about sex-flavored ice cream???? :D:D:D

A lady in need of assistance?

*licks the offending ice cream off your breast*

All better now?

oops! my bad! points to a new drop lower:D

*Licks even lower*

I think that's all of it... ;)

Re: Re: Re: Very interesting!
 

Sugarsprinkles,

Indeed so - yet we will always be called to balance our desires for personal freedom against the behavior of those who would, like the terrorists, seek to destroy what our country represents.

As the external threats to our nation increase, so will the calls for "temporary" powers to protect it.