I read about the parade on the BBC's Web site. The headline said 'Planes drop a million poppies" but for some reason I read it as 'Planes drop a million people' first. :eek: :D

I quickly caught some of the news this morning and they report that it was 4 young British men that were suicide bombers. :yikes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4676577.stm here ya go if you wanna read more

i read the same... but the British men had Pakastani ties, or at least one of them did.

*wondering if I'm being banned for my "freedom of speech" everyone else has in this forum............* That's OK............. I made my point. a SAD day for me I'd never thought it would have come between us......... Americans can't express their feelings about us but every other country can????????????

CGT~ You obviously have not been banned. You are free to express your views but you will be expected to be tolerant of the views of others as they will be expected to be tolerant of yours, regardless of whether it be regarding sex, politics, religions, lifestyles, etc. If you make a political post such as the one you made here, you should expect and respect that someone may have a different view.

If anyone feels they are unable to participate in discussions without it becoming personal, then they should probably avoid posting in those threads. Personal attacks/flaming members will not be tolerated.

When they inflame AMERICANS and the leader of their country......LILITH.......It becomes PERSONAL. We don't talk shit about theirs.

i am in full agreement with CGT. I may not post alot, but i have read alot. and i don't recall seeing very many Tony Blair sucks posts. but people will automatically jump on Bush's back and how American's are dumb for re-electing him.

and I am with CGT in thinking that those kinds of posts are bullshit. i would guarantee if i read and knew the facts and then attacked Tony Blair, people would have a spas attack. my 2 cents. take it how you will

CGT~ many people not only around the world but in this country as well have differing views regarding the US government (as they do about many things). People should not have to walk on eggshells when discussing how they feel about it. If someone says George Bush is an idiot and you take that personally, that is your choice, millions of Americans would not think a thing. Just like if someone said Tony Blair is an idiot and Lou or Fussy took it personally, it would be their choice( if I remember right though Lou would be in agreement, as I think I have seen her post to that idea), ad many Brits would not be troubled by it at all.

On a board made up of all kinds of adults from all over the place, you need to expect people to express views you don't like and you need to find a way to express your own views in return. If someone disagres with you, they have that right. Adults should be capable of adult discussion.

Members are free to post regarding policies and politics in any country you choose as well. We have many anti-Saddam and anti-Bin Laden threads and posts. We have had posts debating the policies in Australia regarding voting. Problem is that many Americans don't really know that much about what goes on in other countries.

In my never so humble opinion, it's part of the ethnocentrism that some other countries accuse us of. I personally prefer not to discuss politics/government here but I realize that considering the enormous part they play in all of our lives is unrealistic to expect. I have learned to participate where I choose, always mindful that US governement and politics affect the much of the world. As has been seen in the recent application of the law that has spurred the change in our pic posting policy.

Just wanted to share a giggle I just had... am I the only one who imagined the British men wearing ties made in Pakistan??? :D

Lilith -

Just wanted to say that no, Fussy and I would not take it personally if anyone were to say that Tony Blair's an idiot, and interestingly enough, he and I both have quite differing views on the subject ourselves.

Fussy and I come from quite different socio-economic backgrounds so it's unsurprising that we have different political views and in the recent General Election we actually voted differently as well. Mine was largely a tactical vote to try to unseat Tony Blair, while Fussy voted for the party he felt would best lead this country. He and his family helped to vote Tony Blair into power last time too, I believe.

We discuss politics a fair amount at home, and I can safely say our discussions have never escalated into anything personal, because, as you say Lilith, we are both capable of adult discussion and we respect each other's views, realising that the difference in our backgrounds and life experiences have resulted in a different world view.

I think you brought up Bush in this thread and talked about the Iraqi war and how this bombing proved the Iraqi war was justified.

Show me where Bush was attacked in this thread.

If you want to get into it, a wonderful right-wing American on this site said Canada didn't get involved with Iraq because Newfoundlanders kill baby seals. It was the equivalent of saying Oklahomans . . . well, let's just say it sucked. My friend hid behind the good old 'I just got this in an email from someone else' yet he insulted my province.

We can't avoid politics here obviously but again, you tooted the horn of how justified this war was when I fail to see the correlation.

Of course I'm not a supporter of Bush. Of course I know you are.

Facts are facts. You can hide behind the flag and cry when I don't kiss your ass for your ideals but come on! You live in a free country. You can talk about how wonderful Bush is but why shouldn't you expect someone to disconstruct your theories?

You're a tough woman, I'm a tough woman. I don't get why you're getting so pissed about this.

And I will ask because some people have said this site's "majority" are anti-Bush:

1) Who has left the site because of politics? (Irish, you keep saying people email you because they've left the site -- if you don't want to give a name, why not at least give us a thread that caused the exodus?)
2) When has any political thread been shot down because of its slant? Left- and right-wing threads are welcome here as long as they're not based on retardedness like "Newfoundlanders kill baby seals and are too busy to be in Iraq".

And honest to Christ, CGT, if you read your reply to my first post here, it really makes no sense. You are not debating facts. I'm telling you that Iraqis were not involved with 9/11 but you still continue to wave the flag and say, from what I can gather, that terrorism is being fought and dealt with cuz Americans are in Iraq right now. Jesus Murphy, Saddam Hussein is insane but HE WASN'T INVOLVED WITH 9/11.

I understand you're patriotic but can you not acknowledge that President Bush has spun this war to show he's protecting Americans after 9/11 even though Iraqis were not involved with it? I pray for the troops, too.

Straight up, I was a member of other mostly-American sites and left them after viewing "Let's kill the towelhead" threads. I would prefer that the site stays away from politics but I know it's a major part of life and I tend to wade in when I see facts are being fucked with. Emotions are one thing, don't fuck with the facts.

cowgirltease,

The reason for the invasion of Iraq was the purported existence, and Saddam Hussein’s documented use, of weapons of mass destruction (chemical & biological), not any assistance the Hussein regime may have provided to al-Qaeda. That argument came later, after the WMDs were not found.

I support Bush and i'm not even American *LOL*

Same as i support the current Prime Minister of Australia....though it can be a very unpopular thing to do

Tough titties...i know who i stand for...i know what i believe...and we can debate it to hell and back but ya aint gonna change my mind *LOL*