mmmmmm Yes! i'll go down, just as long as you don't knock my loser crown off my head!

Yes we all get the point Jseal unless you have a dozen links to post (even if they are pointless and do anything to prove your point) don't post anything that disagrees with Jseal's point. Unless you want a pointless argument with self apointed Mr. Right.

Links i can do links :D

The Origins of Gospel

Booger,

Thank you for you patience. The emotions seemed to be running rather high on Thursday night/Friday morning, so rather than increasing the likelihood of a post that shouldn’t be, I thought I’d let the passions die down somewhat.

Am I Mr. Right? No sir, I’ve been wrong often enough in the past to know that I can be wrong at any time. That is why, as I have said before, I try to base my opinions on evidence.

You’ll note that my eight references all include Thomas A. Dorsey, with descriptions such as “seminal influence”, the "Father of Gospel Music", “the first who composed such new songs”, “the Father of Contemporary Gospel”, etc. This is why I consider them coherent, as they have him as the coordinating theme. As Mr. Dorsey was PBC’s music director starting in 1932, it seems to me to be reasonable to conclude that Gospel Music originated where he practiced it, at that church in Chicago.

I am aware that by responding to your post, I am exposing myself to criticisms, such as gratuitously extending the life of this thread, being verbose, etc. etc. While your posts seemed to me to be somewhat harsh, I thought they warranted a reasonable response. I also hope that the fact that I took the time to respond to your posts will not anger you.

Ahahahahaha, so you're not acknowledging what Boog said about you posting link after link after link to prove a case. Nope, you're now going to spell it out.

Seriously.

Why are you here, jseal? Are there not debate forums you'd find more enjoyable?

It's a sex site & I'm getting the sense you're getting your jollies by being holier than thou.

Seriously!

In a sick way, I think you enjoy that. That's sad.

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Your argument is very thin at best. Yes your eight references all include Thomas A. Dorsey but if you also look at the first link you referenced you'll note the first paragraph says

The word Gospel is an elision of 'God' and 'spel' (The old English for story). The genre is distinguished primarily by spontaneity and informality, qualities which, while sometimes arousing suspicion or unease, have been present since the very beginnings of the Christian faith. By a further arbitrary use of the term, however, Gospel music is considered to have begun in the United States, sometimes in the 19th century, first appearing in print in 1874 with the publication of Gospel Songs by Philip Bliss


so I guess my question is did how did godspel get published 25 years before Thomas A. Dorsey was born? Did Thomas A. Dorsey also invent the time machine and go back in time or did it fall threw a rift in time to be published.

P.S. nope emotions weren't running high wednessday night/thursday morning at all. Just observations that I have made from this thread and watching you in the past on this site.

Steph,

When I presented my evidence in the form of unexpanded links, Booger referred to them as pointless. When I presented the same evidence, but limited to the particulars that were (and remain) the crux of the examples from the original references, his response was different. While it is clear that he remains unpersuaded by what the authors have to say, he did take the time to respond in kind. Changing how I presented what I had to say changed how he responded.

It is impossible to satisfy criticism both when I use links for my references and also when I do not.

It is true that Pixies Place still has many sexually oriented pictures, and I am only one of many who browse the erotic stories. That being said, in the Advice forum you may be surprised to find:

Lilith, in the Pixies Power thread is exploring “support in our efforts to change our lifestyle meaning things like habits (such as smoking or even financial spending), dietary changes, or exercise.” She also started the General Well Being thread, the focus of which is being healthier.

Lion started a thread concerning replacing the timing belt on his car. It is in a post to that thread that Booger expressed his opinion that if you look at the site as a whole that sex is only a small part of it.

wanderingsoul’s Those damn 'describe yourself' questions! is a thread where people posted suggestions on how to improve his profile on some personal sites - including web design.

LixyChick’s Softer Hands...Stronger Nails??? is about manicure.

Two recent threads focused on travel plan suggestions, several on particular physical ailments. I also think that is more appropriate to view some of the threads as relating to romance, rather than sex.

In the General Chat forum the ratio of sexual to non-sexual threads is even more heavily weighted towards the non-sexual. I’d go so far as to suggest that most of the threads there have a non-sexual focus. That could be interesting to determine, although it might be difficult to decide what exactly is a “sex thread”.

Most of the threads in the Games forum are not sexually oriented, although we often take advantage of the opportunities that become available.

Given what I’ve listed above, as to Pixies being a sex site; I’m sure you don’t mean to suggest that that limits the extent of our community, do you? I’m minded of something GingerV once wrote as part of a post “… That Pixies is a wonderful open sexual playground is great, but if it was nothing but naked folks I'd have moved on a long time since …”. I tend to agree with that position. I think that many other long term members do also.

You and I march to the beat of rather different drummers. While I find the personal posts you and PantyFanatic make about me a bit of a bother, there’s little I can do about them, and so I carry on as best I can. I do suspect that those posts are among the reasons that others here often fear having their personal ideas challenged and so don't speak up. All I can suggest is that you try to not let my different point of view upset you so much. In the same vein as BIBI’s response to someone’s complaint about finding a timing belt thread at Pixies, ”LMAO...why let it get your knickers in a knot?”.

Here ^^^ is where jseal and I both agree, "pompous" or not. :D

I support our rights to have different perspectives, ideas, and experiences...and I think it's one of the things that made Pixies Place a great place to be...back in the day. But recently I've felt my honest ideas and opinions are a lot less welcome...and I may not be the only one.

<sigh>

Osuche, you have expressed that several times in the past year and I'd like to point out that we all have that happen at times. I believe I posted my honest idea/opinion in this thread.

I know...I get frustrated, go away...and then come back a few weeks later because (in general) I LIKE this place, and many of the people in it. I just find that people tend to only like *me* when I try to fit in, not when I express my true feelings.

But then again, such is life.

I've stayed out of this thread because I know NOTHING about gospel music. Nothing. But it makes me sad to see a mass feeding frenzy on one member...especially when it gets so personal. Life's too short to spend much time being mean to others...I think there is good in everyone, and a viewpoint that can be appreciated.

I agree and as I stated my issue comes when someone constantly feels the need to challenge everyone else's viewpoint and I am tired of seeing good topics go bad because of the same situation over and over. People should be welcome to express/discuss their views with out being forced to defend them constantly.

OK..What's all this talk about making Puerto Rico a steak?

Well let me say you try be an Aussie and try to fit in *LOL*

Noone gets my humour nor my slang

Have you tried subtitles? :D rofl





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