LMAO @ kendall

I have always maintained that I love to be on top of the situation......:lust: ;)

In the American justice system,you are innocent until proven guilty
In Irish's justice system,NO one is innocent.Money CAN get you off!
I don't feel like writing,the whole thing,but I can tell anyone how it
happened to me!It's not what you did,It's WHO you know & how
much money you can spend!If anyone wants the details,just PM
me!I have told how it works in other threads. Irish

Irish,

Try to think of the American justice system, and all justice systems for that matter, as works in progress, or possibly as "the best we can do right now".

I am hard pressed to think of anyone who claims that the American justice system is perfect, but I think the general consensus is that it strives to to deliver what Americans believe justice to be.

Remember that what is just in Vermont may not be seen to be just in Nevada - or any where outside of Vermont for that matter.

jseal---The incident,that happened to me,happened in NH,where I
live now.My(deceased)father was a Conn.State Policeman & also
an Aux. town policeman,in the town where I grew up in Conn.I've
seen how the justice system works for years.As long as humans
are involved,there will be corruption.Remember:NOTHING is illegal
,unless you get caught doing it!Show me someone,who has NEVER done anything illegal & I will show you a very RARE or
nieve(sp?) person! Irish
P.S.My incident,was in the late 60s/early 70s!

Irish,You are right about the justice system in this country.Unfortunately money talks.But this is a symptem of the fact that America has been under the influence of a conservative idealogy for far to long.It simply means that the rich have a different standard than the rest of us.this truth was apperant during the O.J. Simpson trial as well.Before the trial even got started,the judge declaired that the death penality would not be appropraite in this case.WHY? If he was found guilty of murdering two people,why would it not be approprite???? We have lived under a double standarded set up by a very conservative minority for far to long.It is high time that equal justice for all be the rule.I'am not saying that the death penalty is a good thing,but I certainaly took notice when O.J. was exempt from it even before the trial began just because he had the money to get off and the name recoginition to forgo the formalties that others would have to face in the same situation.As you said before,money can buy the type of justice you will recieve in a criminal court. So we'll just have to sit back and see what Michael Jackson's trial will be like.If I can commend one conservative republican for doing the right thing,it would be Gov.Ryan of Illinois for putting a moritoriam on the death penality.Because he realized it was being abused.Of course,Michael Jackson has not comitted any capital offense,but the same rules of justice do apply.

Ain't nothin like a good ol' fashion cyber lynchin'.

Justice? Please my Pixie Pals - listen to Irish - you go to court, you may as well toss a coin - unless of course you can fix the coin.

I think the poor man is a very sad case and if he has harmed other people in the the process then maybe your justice system will do something to stop him. But how many more muderers and general scumbags have walked free?

Whether your courts find him innocent or guilty as charged, my opinion of him won't change.

P.S. Lix - is your AV a homage to Billy Connelly?

lakritze,

Interesting.

When has money not talked? Where has money not talked?

How long is "far to long"? Would that correspond to the 48 (1954 - 1992) years of a Democratic majority in Congress? Or the 4 Democratic Presidents who were elected to office during that period, which then gave that party control of both the Legislative as well as the Executive branches of the Federal government? Would a shorter period, say of 24 years been better?

How did a minority go about setting up the double standard? What was this group, and why is it described as a minority? What criteria are being applied to judge it "very conservative"?

As I'm sure you have read Judge Ito's opinion as to why he excluded the death penalty from the trial, would you share it? I would appreciate reading the legal critique that supports the criticism in the post.

I was under the impression that the good Governor Ryan is considered to be a moderate Republican, rather than a conservative. Indeed, by placing a moritorium on the death penalty (as the retention of the death penalty is generally considered to be a conservative position) wouldn’t he be dallying with – gasp – a Liberal notion? Do you think perhaps it might be a question of one’s point of view? Or is it that to belong to that political party is to be defined as a conservative?

Vigil,

I think it is important to keep in mind that that a cyber lynching, good, old or otherwise is not at all like the real thing – it is much, much better than the real thing.

Q.E.D. jseal

Vigil,

"Thus it is shown"? What?

That fantasy is preferable to reality (in this case)

erat - has been

Vigil,

Ah. Fair enough. And you are quite correct. Sorry 'bout that.

My question to errrr Mr Jackson is ,after the first accusations in 93
the bad publicity for himself and his family,WHY?WHY? Would you Jacko still have pajama partys (ahem) with little boys? No doubt he's one twisted human being ,lawyers say he's a very private person well then don't do the sick shit ya been doin .The parents who send there kids there for sleepovers aren't without blame either especially knowing his history.Mr Jacko is in for another major meltdown and i'm not talking bout all the plastic in his face either.

Vintage Vixen,

Over the next little while, the good Mr. Jackson will have many opportunities to reflect upon his domestic decisions of the recent past. Given his notorious past, one might indeed question the decisions of the parents of the children.

Still, you'll need to be patient, the legal process marches to the beat of a rather slow drummer.

Gee maybe i'm watching to much Law and Order but where's
Ice T and Munch when you need them?