Axe- Stereotyping does suck eh..just remember that its them with them problem not you.

Mrs L- Oooo that realllly pisses me off hun. Having kids of my own I always buckled mine down and pulled over if they got out. I see it alll the time and it makes me wanna knock on their window and beat the crap out of the dad and show him what it feels like to crash with no belt.

One thing that has been pissing me off as of late is motorcyclist. You know the ones...that have no rules to go by! Here I am, sitting in a 45 min queue and here comes Mr "I dont need to wait like everyone else" and takes the center. Grrrr, just because he CAN do it doesnt mean he should! All the others hafta wait, why cant they. If and when I get a bike, I'll wait with the rest or turn around for a different route.

Oh manz... sure is a very bitching day for all of you. Cool down manz! Look on the brigh side. Tomorrow is just another day... ;)

As far as motorcyclists go:"Judge not;lest yee be judged yourself!"In over 43yrs. of riding;I have found that there are jerks
in every lifestyle.Over the years;you learn not to judge all;by the
actions of one.You usually find that the person that rides the smartest;is the one that knows how much damage that pavement
or dirt does. Irish

most accedents between a car an a motorbike
is the falt of the car driver now before assumsuns
are made iam a car driver keep an extra eye out for the
motorbikes please

My bitch is that my gardens, and grass is out of control!! In Florida, the problem in the summer is getting things to stop growing, or at least let you catch up. It seems like I always have 5 things to do, and only enough time for 2 of them.

I'm sick of people asking if I'm "excited" to go into labor! Yeah I'm ready to bake a cake at the first sign of pain!? Only one woman asked "are you scared?" And a few who understand have asked just simply "you ready?" Yeah I can't wait to hold this little girl, but no I am not excited or thrilled to be on this side of labor, ask me in a month!

We've had two friends of the family crash on motorcycles in the past four days (one died, the other is in icu) so I agree, everyone on the road is responsible for their actions no matter what your driving/riding. I wish parents would put helmets on their kids here when riding with them though, because it's not law in Colorado. :mad:

I'm amazed to read that it's not law for cyclists to wear helmets. It's been a law here for years. They also have "on the spot" fines for anyone not wearing a helmet.

Legend---Like seatbelts;you hear Pro&Con stories.I;personally;
know of one person who died;BECAUSE of a helmet.I like seatbelts but hate the feeling of having a shoulderbelt on!One of
my daudhters;had a ProbeGT;and the other had an Eagle(Talon?);
both cars had seatbelts and shoulderbelts.I bought a seatbelt;at
an accessory store;and installed it in my car.When you're racing
motorcycles;it is mandatory;to wear a helmet!The solution should
be left to the operator;I think."Let those who ride decide."I think
that it should be a personal choice!Not one made by people with
no riding experience! Irish
P.S.Overrated-I have never heard anyone say that they want to
feel the wind in their hair!(NO-I am not bald.I have long blond hair.)

Dropped my bike badly once in the early 70's.

Broke my helmet, not my skull.

Argument won me.

My arguement for seatbelts; not just lifesavers, but facesavers as well... had a low-speed impact in the 80s (wife driving), neither adult belted, toddler in back in padded age-appropriate seat... wife needed stitches to un-slpit her lip, I needed surgery to return my nose back to near its original postion... child was unharmed, he did cry, I think his face may have bounced off the pad... we all buckle up in our family now...

"One who died" VS "How many who have lived"

What about the people in that have to scrape bits of a motorcyclists head off the road cause they wore no helmet!!!

Or the ER people who have to try to put the victims head back together after it has slid down the road at 100? k/h

Sorry Irish....i am a motorcyclist and i believe Australia has it right....compulsary helmets to all

Sharni---It's called free choice.You believe one thing and someone else believes something else!I;personally;don't believe
that someone else should tell someone what they should do.I
cringe;everytime;that I see someone on a bike;with shorts and
sneakers;but it's their decision to make.The person that died was just one that I know of;not a %/%.My belief is that nothing should be mandated.If someone slid down the road at 100?;with
out a helmet on;it's obvious that they were not the sharpest knife in the drawer;anyway. Irish
P.S.The views expressed are those of the thread responder and
having fought ;in the jungle to defend those views;should not be
infringed upon.

Ooh, I've unwittingly stirred up a hornet's nest, so it seems. I think for helmets and seatbelts, the pros far outweigh the cons - ie more people are saved because of them, than people who are killed.

Are we going to let a young child decide whether they need to wear a helmet or seatbelt?

My wife;told me;yrs. ago;that I was going to give myself an ulcer;
worrying about whether people did the safe thing or not.She told
me that from my years of racing and lifes experiences;that I hate
to see people make the same mistakes that I have made.As she
said;"People are going to do what they want;no matter what!"I'll
just do as she said and let people believe what they want.One
person;looks back;at you;from the mirror;and you have to be happy with the way that person believes!In other words;all of the
arguments;in the world;aren't going to change or solve anything!!
Irish

Oldfart,


have to fervently disagree here. :(
Nutworld did not report he was unpolite to the customer. But he was insulted by the customer.

IMO an employer who protects his employees from rude customers looses one rude customer, a customer probably hard to satisfy if ever and at high cost. But he keeps the spirit among his employees up-tone. Employees will feel respected as human beings, their self-confidence and soft motivation remainling intact and they will find it easy to be polite and constructive and helpful to customers who earn it and are in fact willing to pay proper money for proper service and not to steal employer's money by consuming 2 tedious working hours of an employee :(and then buying a pair of precision-matched washers :mad:
By the right spirit and soft motivation of his employees the employer will earn way more money on all other customers than he had loosed on the one rude customer leaving. It not only feels good, it pays to be nice to your employees !!! They are humans just as the customers are.

Recently i investigated possible webspace providers for my nu website (me intending to start a business with explantion-needing audio products). One company, www.featureprice.com seemed to offer huge webspace for reasonable but not cheap money. I am observing them for quite a while (do they disappear?) and finally decided to risk a closer look. I read the legal stuff, found nothing to complain about, was surprised to find that they guarantee >99% server uptime per contract, (no other competitor, in the US, in Germany, whereever, dared to offer such, most "indicate they would be about 96% uptime under normal circumstances)

And then i found the paragraph regulating rude customer behaviour to service staff. You are obliged to treat service personell politely, without menaces, without foul language. Otherwise they can kick you out. By contract. Without refund.

Great! i tought, a company protecting their employees that way will have good working spirit and skilled, fast-responding people, i thought. Choice made, no further investigaion needed, case closed.
This is a business partner i know i will like. :)

BTW, comparing prices and quality of their service, they are quite cheap.

All,
me rarely bitches at others, not my style, not my mood... but here in Germany, well, we have no speed limit. And we have a certain sort of drivers bullying the 3rd lane free at any price. Had it once, when driving home form work on a very crowded Autobahn that i was driving at about on the 3rd lane.

In the rear mirror i saw a well-known flashing of head lights. "get from the 3rd lane now" i thought, looked for a gap, tired to go into it when a drvier dozing along on the 1st lane decided to take that gap, too. Well, i had to pull back on the 3rd to avoid a crash and in the meantime the flashing mainiac was right behind me, bumper2bumper @ 170 km/h, trying to bully me out of his way, cursing, shaking his fist and then overtaking me on the "grass" lane .

Never was i scared more in traffic, i strived to the next parking exit very carefully, and let the shakes fade ... it was 30 minutes until i could continue driving.

Such people make me angry, redundant lack of responsiblity sense! I would vote for protecting the society from such individuals. They should not get any tool harder and faster than their own dick to play with and to hurt others. Put them in a rubber cell :mad:

dice45, relax mate. when you've been here for a while, you'll get to know which and when people are being tongue-in-cheek.

legend,

relaxing :) guess i have to learn that. Hardly ever do. Too passionate for that :) But doesn't hurt if the forum elders now and then get a clue how they are arriving at newbies, communicatively, isn't it?

BTW, i sensed the tongue-in cheek, but Oldfart's statement was based on a very common comprehension of the supplier-customer relation. A comprehension not looking over the edge of the dish one is sitting in, IMO. A comprehension i experineced very often and with own pain, BTW. So the topic triggers me immeditately. Could not resist :)

"It pays to be nice and caring to your your employees":
I had this topic with my parents very often, getting backup from my mother and unbelieving stares from my father (who ended his carreer as general manager responsible for administration and staff, BTW, so he should have known by experience) . My mother and me used to tear his complaints about his employees into stripes on appropriate occasion, demonstrating him how he (or in most cases his boss, the owner) turned his employees sour. By requesting examples from him and then analyzing this very example. "And what follows from that? and from that? and what is the consequence for the employee then emotionally?" and so forth ....
BTW, he never admitted to agree to my mother's (and in the last years also my) advice but nevertheless tended to follow the advice in most cases. He must have done a good job otherwise as the employees never called for joining the union and electing a Betriebsrat (employee's speaker). FYI, 3 people out of ??? demanding Betriebrat elections are sufficient, according to German laws. And ??? was 780 in this case. I had the opportunity to visit company my father was working for for several occasions and i met the owner, too. He was a mean and frightening man, but you could not sense that from the employee's mood, tellya. My father must have done a marvelous job moderating the owner's emotional impact.

Today both my parents and me agree that treating the employees nice and respectful was key to a good working spirit and no desire for Betriebsrat. It pays. In Deutschmarks in that case :)
And there were some exceptions where the employee (valuable ones!) made the terrible mistake to ask the owner himself for financial help (which could have served the purpose of golden handcuffs) and he snorted "I'm not a bank!" at them.
Stereotype response pattern: the employee first telling the other collegues his dissappointing experience ("For whom am i working here!?"), bad working spirit spreading from that and the valuable employee leaving soon (or in 2 cases) not coming, not signing the contract .
Any idea how much cash runs up advertising for a job, any idea how few valuable people this effort yields, any idea how much goes into that person's training? It costed Deutschmarks in any case, more than i make a year. Stupid!!!

No Q, treating customers worse than one self expects to be treated is utterly inexcusable. Should i come into the situation to have a row with my employee about right that topic (which may come some day) and he/she ie not willing and succeeding to improve customer handling, I may see myself forced to unemploy him/her and not waste time with it. But i will know i am the cause. I should
A) not have hired a person with incorrigible attitudes.
B) i should not treated him/her the way i did.
Either or both.

Aren't we in the bitching thread here?
I bitch about bullying, stupid employers. :mad:
And you see, cannot stop talking/ranting about that topic :)

You and the other elders will have a lot of fun poking me and getting my explosive temperament go boom, promised :)

still bitchin' around :-)
 

All,
did you know this pix ? ... :)

Ok, I really gotta blow off about this...say goodbye to your privacy, fellow Americans, now anybody can visit the site below & see your driver's licence...I checked for mine already, they've got it, they've got everybody's, I'm still steamed...check it out for yourself, & write your congressman, let's put a stop to this...

http://www.license.shorturl.com/

thats pretty funny scotzoidman..........i was about to go bullshit

Shhh, don't tell em dark...make everybody check it out

ARGH LOL scared me for a sec there ROFL!! :P

Funny Scotz but true...I put in your name and there you were :):):):)

Knew I shoulda shaved before havin the picture made...

Scotzoidman---The website works perfectly!I typed in my wifes
name and the picture;on the license;looks exactly like her.I forwarded;the website;to her at work and she doesn't think so.
(No sense of humor!)After knowing me for all of these years;you'ld
think that she would expect something like that.THANKS! Irish

What really honks me off?!!!!!!!!
 

It’s when you are caught up with the daily routine of just keeping busy with going threw life, doing whatever you think you’re suppose to be doing for some reason you can’t remember:( . After years of trudging on, you stumble onto something that catches your attention:rolleyes: and after a second look, you notice somebody that is actually stirring YOU:eek: . You watch for a while and after seeing how quick, witty, gorgeous and guttsy she is, you get closer to the situation and soon find that you’re remembering what it really was all about:) . Pretty soon you’re in the middle of the party and just having a ball along with all the other super people you meet because of her:D . She just keeps everyone and everything going hot, fast and smooth for you and everybody while taking care of all the problems and headaches that comes with a ruckus, happy environment and can still be the star.
Then she gets a summer job and goes away until September:mad:.

Doesn’t that kind of thing piss you off Diva?:confused:

Pantyfanatic---Well said! Irish

My pet peeve! Ok...this might only mean something to a person who works in any sort of repair industry, but here goes. Someone calls in to report that they have no dial tone on their phone line...and they noticed it TWO WEEKS ago...and then they're crawling up our asses to have it repaired YESTERDAY! <hrmph> Ok, enough complaining...back to work

BUMP!!


Ok, at the risk of being called a SCROOGE or GRINCH.........and I'm sorry if it offends anyone...................................





Is it REALLY necessary to play Christmas and other winter Holiday songs EVERY OTHER SONG on EVERY radio station????

I'm sorry, really I am. It's not that I don't like Christmas songs......but do we have to have them crammed down our throats NON-STOP from Thanksgiving on??? I have tried Rock stations, Country stations....and it seems I'm flipping stations constantly. I understand how some Christmas shoppers enjoy the music and that it does help get one in the mood. But my complaint is the frequency......

For one thing due to various circumstances in my life right, I just don't have the Christmas Spirit this year. And all the Holiday music only makes me feel more lonely and depressed. I can't be the only person who dreads this aspect of the Holidays.

Or am I????





Sugarsprinkles

I always thought that SS stood for SugarSprinkles!I didn't know
that it stood for ScrodgeSprinkles!Seriously;I haven't had any
Christmas spirit in years.In my opinion they have just made it too
commercialised.It's just another chance for the merchants;to
suck as much money from you as possibleEven our Christmas card list has dwindled to hardly nothing.They keep raising the Postal Rates;and that's the only time that you hear from 85% of
the people. Irish

I haven't been bombarded by Christmas songs on the stations I listen to. I do grow tired of hearing them in the stores when I am shopping though.

A short list:

People who think they deserve respect only because they have lived on this earth long enough to be considered 'old'.

The way men are portrayed on television advertisments.

Intrusive authoritative fundamentalists.

Parents telling bald-faced lies to children in order to 'preserve their innocence'.

The bilious lies emanating from Microsoft, and their new licencing policies.

Parents who romanticize about how their parents beat them.

My inability to communicate verbally with the opposite sex. :(

My appearance.

The collapsing of the IT industry just as I'm poised to enter it.

People talking loudly on telephones near me.

I'll probably think of more later.

Belial:
 

I just want to remind you that we don't want to berate or belittle others (or ourselves)...



shouldn't be on your list.


Some may remember that we got onto someone else for doing that very thing a while back. (BamaK - ?)


Just a friendly reminder;)

I detest seeing Xmas .

Its Christmas so if it has to be abbreviated why not C'mas?

I will not buy anything from a store that has an Xmas sign.

I am not religous but taking the christ out od Cristmas hits a raw nerve in me.

I agree with GG.It ALL amounts to what I said about Christmas
being so commercial!I'm certainly not religous but they have
taken the"Christ"out of Christmas!"X"didn't die on the cross
for us! Irish
P.S.Please don't send religous comments.I'm not disrespecting
anyones beliefs(sp?);I know that everyones are different!

Just a note about the X in Xmas......I have heard another way to consider that X..........as a cross. I knew a preacher who actually would use the X to unite both the birth and crucifix. You can see things in many different ways.......it's all about personal interpretation.

My bitch is the freaking malls saying their hours are til 10pm but all the stores I wanna shop at still closing at 9. I say all or nothing!!!!!

Oh, poor Lilith, what should I say? The shops close here mon-fri at 8 PM, sat at 4PM, sundays closed completely (except petrol stations and bakeries).

About the Xmas: We use XXX for kisses, right? Perhaps it´s because kiss and Christ- sound similar???
So it´s possibly kiss-mas??? :D

It should actually be called Yule still.