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jseal 10-31-2011 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fangtasia
I didnt have one purely because i wasnt 'into' photography enough to warrent one ...

A well equipped darkroom costs serious $$$.

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... I pretty sure that me getting prints done of my digital photos also costs real money *LOL* ...

And I'm absolutely certain that your "negatives" cost exactly nothing. Kodachrome = negatives.

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... And proper photo manipulation is still the domain of professionals who have invested in the things required to do it to the point it isnt immediately noticable or apparent. It can be quite easy to pick out when done by the normal joe ...

You never noticed any of the revisions I've made to the pics I've posted here. Or, more precisely, you've never commented on any of them, so I assume you haven't noticed them.
*LOL*, as you say.

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... Very difficult does not equate to it was NEVER done ...

I don't recall saying that it was never done.

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... I never did it back then as i never had an interest in doing so ...

Right! Try manipulating the color gradient as the sky touches the horizon with analog equipment. Take notes and brief me on the techniques you used. Hint: try dust.

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... I am however VERY much into my photography and yet still i touch the photos very little if at all... .

More power to you.

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... I am proud of getting a shot that doesnt need work, as are most photographers...

As well you should be.
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... If a person put themselves out there as a professional, and then they need the high end equipment to make a photo worthy, they are not professional photographer they are an accomplished artist in my eyes...

They are both. A portrait, whether done with a paintbrush in oils, or with a good analog (film) or digital camera requires esthetic composition. Once that is done well, the tools are almost incidental.

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... Little joe trying to make there photos presentable, which the majority would be is a far cry from the amount you seem to think are around...

The amount of metabolic residue masquerading as photoshopped photographs is enormously greater now that it costs next to nothing to do.

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... Anyway....i'll stand by my photos have always been manipulated

As I mentioned above, I don’t recall saying that it was never done, merely very infrequently then when compared with now.

PantyFanatic 11-01-2011 02:25 AM

Analogue photos? :confused: WTF??? Is that anything like the reaction of chemical film?

Fangtasia 11-01-2011 02:37 AM

Pfffftttt...~I've cleaned enough shit today, cant be bothered playing with yours anymore jseal, i didnt post on it cause i really dont care if people have touched up their photos *LOL* Its their work not mine.

If however it is a competition and it states photos are not to be touched up, then damn yeah i will say something

jseal 11-01-2011 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fangtasia
Pfffftttt...~I've cleaned enough shit today, cant be bothered playing with yours anymore jseal ...

Having not given you any, you'll need to look elsewhere for that type of entertainment.

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... i really dont care if people have touched up their photos *LOL* Its their work not mine ...

We are all entitled to our opinions.

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... If however it is a competition and it states photos are not to be touched up, then damn yeah i will say something

Quite right. Of course you should.

Scarecrow 11-01-2011 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jseal
In other words, you can now do for free what would have taken a trained professional using $$$$ of equipment to do in the past

The authenticity of photographs is a victim of the digital age.



Sorry, but it did not take a trained professional and $$$$ of equipment. You could rent a darkroom and equipment and ANYONE who wanted to take the time could learn to manipulate the photos. I know, because I did it (for fun) in the '70s when I was in the service.

PantyFanatic 11-02-2011 12:56 AM

Not while in the service but :nod:.

jseal 11-02-2011 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow
Sorry, but it did not take a trained professional and $$$$ of equipment. You could rent a darkroom and equipment and ANYONE who wanted to take the time could learn to manipulate the photos.

I learned my analog tricks in high school and college.

The reason you rented that dark room, or joined and remained in the photo club was because we couldn't afford the $$$ to purchase and equip one. Photoshop et al for $200 or less is one reason that there are many times more digitally manipulated photos now than there were then. As you pointed out, "you could". The fact is, when compared with now, very few did.

As to the time it took to learn how to do the analog tricks, how many minutes did it take for you to learn how to remove objects from, and add objects to analog photos? Here is a 9-minute Photoshop tutorial to do just that. The ease with which one can digitally manipulate photographs is the other reason that there are orders of magnitude more revised/touched up/altered photographs now than there was in the past.

How did you add neon stripes to your analog photos? Here's a 1:22 Photoshop tutorial.

gekkogecko 11-02-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarecrow
I know, because I did it (for fun) in the '70s when I was in the service.



You were in the service for fun ? I think you made a mistake, there.

Oldfart 11-02-2011 07:22 PM

Why?

If doing your civic duty can be fun, embrace it, says I.

Scarecrow 11-02-2011 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gekkogecko
You were in the service for fun ? I think you made a mistake, there.



IF you were in my unit, yes it was fun.

PantyFanatic 11-02-2011 11:25 PM

That was SUPPOSE to be the unit I joined up for. :banghead:

pinkFlames 11-05-2011 09:33 AM

Back to the original question. :)

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Originally Posted by PantyFanatic
So what fun things have you had to trade off with the advancement of technology? :confused:


I miss the days when we could go to the toilet in peace without being grilled about why we didn't answer the phone.

scotzoidman 11-12-2011 10:30 PM

Obvious troll is still obvious.

jseal 11-16-2011 06:16 PM

The autodialers that put you on hold when you pick up THEIR call.


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