It's been argued as to when life begins...at conception, or in a further developmental stage?

I think the term "father" and "mother" are used here to say who got who pregnant. But if a person isn't of the belief that life begins at the moment of conception, and an abortion is performed at the extreme earliest awareness of conception...well, that's a whole other kettle of fish.

Sorry to throw fuel on the fire...but it had to be said! Sometimes it sucks being the devil's advocate...

I was referring to the psychological and behavioural distinction between fathers and sperm donors. Impregnating someone and reappearing only to lay claim to the egg my seed happens to fertilize, or to demand termination, is a foreign concept to me. I just don't see how anyone can have sex with someone and walk away and because I wasn't making that distinction...my feathers got ruffled.

To clarify my position: Fathers should have a say in the life of their unborn child.

Sperm donors should not.

Well, perhaps that will happen.

Now if the other two branches of our federal government were scoured well enough to get the frequency of their scandals as low as it already is for the Judiciary, we would be making REAL progress!

I know that makes me a hopeless idealist, but at least I can dream of it! :)

Take politics out of the government ......... oh fore sooth! :eek:

But it is nice to dream. :rolleyes:

Scarecrow,

I don’t recommend that at all. If the politics is taken out of government, all that’s left is ideology, and governments which ideologically, rather than politically based, are in my experience, routinely intrusive, frequently hazardous, and occasionally lethal.

What I would like and hope for, even if it is unrealistic, is less misbehavior, graft, corruption, and the like from the elected in both the Legislative and Executive branches of government.

Granted, their antics do provide a measure of entertainment for the electorate, but that is not why they are in office.