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Yep....but at least ya got something
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Yes groups like Yahoo are making sweeping changes as well.
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The reason for the Yahoo chatroom closure take a look here http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/0...huts_chatrooms/ Makes sense to me! (FussyPucker - I couldn't be bothered to log lou off and log me in :) ) |
:rant: Not Q or A... but what the fucking crap is this? I'm surprised the brilliant Bush administration didn't try to tack this onto the "Patriot" Act... given that all terrorists are known to partake in sex. It looks like my age-old wisdom of 'change the fucking channel' is going to have to be changed to 'close the freaking browser window.' Because apparently the government has nothing better to do that stick their noses in our bedrooms. :rant: :hair:
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It's just the beginning....
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I'm really sorry you have to deal with this, Lilith. I'm so sick of the government trying to protect us from ourselves and using the premise of "homeland security" to do it. I hope those who supported this regime last November remember this next election season when ultra right-wing conservatives try to engineer another victory. GW= :ahole: (See new av)
Sorry.........didn't mean to :rant: Yes, Yahoo is cracking down. I belong to some groups who share adult themed stationery and tags to use with Incredimail, and Yahoo is double checking the ages listed on members profiles and threatening to close groups who have members under 18 or members without ages listed. I don't know about the chat room situation as I haven't gone to a Yahoo chatroom in years. |
Yeah...it's not a coincidence that Yahoo made the wide variety of changes it made on the date this law goes into affect.
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How difficult would it be to change to a different host country, such as the UK?
Mayhem and I are extremely bummed about this as we wanted to post A LOT more in the couples pix section. ......thanks verra much mr. BUSHIT....... |
Yahoo has been funny about adult groups for ages...years actually.....this is not a new thing there
They do not list them (again...for years)....and unless they recieve complaints about them they just ignore their existance |
<~~~~~~~ had all her stuff web site etc on Yahoo closed down by them a while back :o
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I know as a rule they don't bother the adult groups, but we, at least those of us in the Incredimail sharing groups, are being notified of a new crackdown. I own one adult group of my own and have not had any notification from Yahoo. So, who's to say if they really are or not. I know a lot of the time these panic alerts go out and make the rounds and turn out to be nothing but smoke. But better safe than sorry, so we're all making sure we have an over 18 age listed on our profiles.
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It will be very interesting to see how it all pans out.
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I was talking to a friend of mine,and his brother was elected to congress recently,to repesent this district..He said the right wing is out to do as much as it can,while it still can..The thing is..Bush can't run again,but,a lot of other people still can,and they want to get re-elected..Voting is more important than ever..I've emailed every representive I can and voiced my displeasure with this law.People need to get registered,and vote..Bush's own party will turn against him,if we let them know they'll get voted out.Doesn't seem like just that will do anything,but at this particular time of the year,these idiots tend to listen to what people want..True,we're stuck with this for a while,but it can get worse if people just take it,and don't say anything about it..
Here,in Western NY,we just had our County Exec.spend millions of dollars on his friends and family,giving them all jobs..Governor was going to do nothing because they were both Republicans..Gov got flooded with mail,email,and phone calls..This week he installed a control board to oversee the asshole.See,the Gov,is up for re-election..Slam these people with email with return reciept requested,they will listen,at some point.. |
jseal - you weren't paying attention. :) This wasn't a Q A thread - it was a Political/Rant thread! Your analytical and rational posts were out of place - just count the number of questions and answers and the number of "lets' slam the government" posts.
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Palace Guard...this thread was started with the intent of giving me a place to answer member's questions as to how the new site policy will be carried out and what is permissible under our current guidelines. Did you have a question or did you just feel the need to "slam" someone yourself? |
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The thing that scares me is this part. Think about it, by the very way that this law is set up, the government is trying to "protect" us by getting into all aspects of our life. So I wouldn't be surprised if somebody comes in here with the purpose of finding pictures that violate the guidelines to fine or shut the site down. At this point, both the owners and Lilith (and the other mods) need to play this safe. Good luck, this is not an easy road that we'll be traveling. I do have a question, do they have a definition of "soft nudity"? Either in the statutes themselves or an accepted one from the legal point of view? Thanks |
not that I've read in any of the statutes...for here it means nudity that does not include explicit sex, masturbation or extreme genital closeups.
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But wasnt that because a disgruntled member got all pissy and reported you to yahoo?? |
Lil--Would the owners be willing to move the site to another host country? Thus by-passing the US laws and protecting themselves for prosecution. and thus allowing those of us who want to post pics of us playing with our partner or ourselves in a more explicit manner may do so.
such as pixies-place.co.uk??? or another country that is more lienient with their adult citizens? |
WOW and DAMN!!!
I'm sorry to hear about this and my feelings go out to all you Mods that have to deal with the headache of this. *trying very hard to go off on a rant myself* so I guess my brain is in a spin and i dont know what else to say, lol *big hugs to all the Mods* |
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I think so...they don't tell you they just pull the plug :D |
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Pixies used to be located in the UK and had a very similar address. I have no idea idea about relocation. I would not be surprised at all to see a business pop up that caters to US webmasters in this situation. |
PalaceGuard,
Looking back at the thread, I can see your point. :o Still, at the time, with a thread heading of “New Picture Posting Q & A”, it seemed like a reasonable thing to do. I didn’t realize that I was causing a problem by doing so. I’ll have to be more sensitive/selective in the future. |
so is all the picture uploading on hold as of now or do we already have to be careful of whats posted?
Do we know roughly when the old pics are gonna be deleted? |
At this point, reported posts will be dealt with. Please make sure that anything you post from here on out fall within the pic posting guidelines.
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I will comply :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:
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Does Pixies (or the owners) happen to be a member of the Free Speech Coalition? See below:
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=49359 |
I read that too. I'm not privy to that information but my best guess would be that they may be. I couldn't speak to that really.
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Booger, No sir, that is incorrect. The thread title reads, “New Picture Posting Q & A” and the following is the first post to the thread: Quote:
The second post to the thread was explicitly about the law: Quote:
I posted a couple of questions I had about the new policy. Those questions were well within the scope of the thread title and the limits expressed by Lilith in the initial post. Lilith, while neither providing an answer to either question, nor offering to find out, acknowledged that the question was not out of line. Quote:
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You know, I realize that some people like to argue just for the sake of arguing but it's counterproductive in regards to this topic. My reason for this thread was to give the members who produce and display images at this site a place to ask questions as to how the new policy will be carried out and what is permissible.
jseal...if you have questions for the owners PM them. I don't own the site, I run it, and damn well! If you have a complaint about the job I do here then PM them as to that as well. I don't need to "find out" anything for you, if you have questions address them to the appropriate source, I made it clear to you in several posts that I am not that source. |
Lilith,
You are, I am sure, aware that I have posted pictures of me at Pixies. The rumors that I used a wide angle lens are untrue. You invited questions about the new site policy, so I asked. When you stated “That's not a question I can answer”, I did not ask the questions again. I have never complained about the job you have done, and I have praised your efforts, and those of the other site moderators. |
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OK, just curious. If I had a question for the owners and I wanted to PM them, just who would I be PMing? |
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Well, I have to say, I'm just as irate as everyone else. Not so much about my pictures, but at the continual shredding of the Bill of Rights by the George of Wrong and his ilk. But that's who we all need to focus our attention on. It does us no good to bicker among ourselves. We are family here, all equally affected, and no doubt all outraged. Let's not shoot the messenger. Lil started this thread so we could be informed, and know what she has to do. We all have to do what our bosses say. Start writing your reps. I live in a largely elephantine state, so I write, and they usually write back a polite "tough noogies," but if we let this keep happening, it's like boiling a frog. Pretty soon it'll be too late, and we won't know what happened.'
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I you notice it say regarding the new policy enacted to comply with recent U.S.law. If you notice it say to comply with the law. It dose not say and the law. The second post was some one asking what the law was not a question about the law itself. This is your first question in this thread if you will note it is about the new law not the new policy. Quote:
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Lilith,
Thanks for starting the thread and keeping us informed. It would be nice if we could all focus on making efforts to change the law rather than over-analyzing or finding holes and gaps in it. A number of people have already made the point that is most essential in this whole debate, regardless of the letter of the law, the law is intended to restrict free expression of human sexuality. No loophole or trick of wording will prevent this administration from prosecuting and restricting access to websites it deems to be in violation of this law. For those who want to take me or others to task for criticizing the current or any government, I remind you that it is my duty and right as a citizen. If the administration can't take the heat, they should get out of the White House. |
Booger,
When Lilith solicited questions about Pixies’ new policy enacted to comply with recent U.S. law, then fielded posts about the law from Winston77, rukh75, Dubblz, wyndhy without problem, while accepting the political posts and rants without comment – all of which occurred before my initial post, well, I’d say that the scope of the thread was quite wide. It would seem that you take a rather more narrow reading. Unto each his own. Respectfully, I disagree with you. |
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