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Fangtasia 10-26-2007 08:11 PM

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Just like wearing a pink ribbon stands for I had/have fought breast cancer

I have neither had nor have breast cancer but i still wear on occassion a pink ribbon...your words are not correct.

The pink ribbon is worn as a symbol for those that support reasearch into breast cancer. I also donate money to the cause, as i'm sure others do, those (including myself at times) that choose to not publically wear a ribbon does not mean they they do not support it.

Daffodil day (cancer reasearch) is a yellow ribbon or daffodil pin worn, rather than wear one, one year i shaved my head, other years i donate.

Ribbons/pins are purely a symbol, nothing more nothing less, they certainly are not the only way to express what you believe is a good cause!

scotzoidman 10-26-2007 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by txgrneyes
i guess we really have a debat going now.....


What I apparently can't get over is that even though I dont like it ACTIONS DO SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

And the actions of the current administration have been screaming at us for the past six years, that they don't care about the Constitution or the rule of law, and whatever they say goes, & everybody else can just get used to it...

Jude30 10-27-2007 10:12 AM

About the "First Impressions" remark. If this is honestly the first time someone has heard of Obama, because of the flag pin fiasco, I don't know if I want that person voting in the first place because they are woefully out of touch with our political landscape.

txgrneyes 10-27-2007 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OrliFanatic
I have neither had nor have breast cancer but i still wear on occassion a pink ribbon...your words are not correct!



I give credit where credit is due....thank you for pointing that out.

txgrneyes 10-27-2007 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jude30
About the "First Impressions" remark. If this is honestly the first time someone has heard of Obama, because of the flag pin fiasco, I don't know if I want that person voting in the first place because they are woefully out of touch with our political landscape.



Ok...I feel like I am talking to my children. No offense to you Jude but I am sure you get the jest of what I am talking about. And maybe I am a bit nieve when it comes to politics because until his muslim background came out...I dont remember him.

But I believe in a man speaking his heart. What you do is something you represent. I work in Law Enforcement and I do my very best to uphold the law and show people around me that laws are there for a reason. If in your past you did some questionable things that speaks for you. You will have to prove yourself again. Once you prove that you can be trusted or at least upstanding then only will your actions speak for you.

I am a person of my word. IF I say I am going to do something then I will try to move heaven and earth to do what I said I would. That is all I am saying.

If someone wants my opinion or advice then they will give them the truth as I see it. They can take it with a grain of salt and do what they want with it. It might hurt but sometime you need the truth to slap you in the face.

If I feel passionate about a "cause" then I will show my passion proudly. I personally have a sticker on my car that say "Bring our solders home safely" and one that says "support our soldiers"....that is mainly because I have attended 4 funerals of young boys that died fighting in this war we have going on now and we have lost alot of ole timers that fought in WWII and Vietnam in our area. (If you need a list then I will provide one you dont have to look up this to prove me wrong). NO i didn't know all of them but I knew there families. I am sorry for there loss but I am always thinking this could be us...my brother is fighting now. So yes I do want my brother to come home safely. I want everyone young and old to support my brother and others that has chosen to fight for everybody's freedom and safety not just his own. He is willing to die for this country and I am so proud of that. I wish others would feel that dedicated for something they believe in.

I watched the movie THE SEVENTH SIGN the other day...and one part of it really hit home. (I know it is a whole different subject but) The soldiers were in the cave beating Jesus and a soldier asked a woman because she cried out against it....."Will you die for him?" What would your answer be if someone came up to you and asked you that question about your friend? your parents? your kids? or even a politician that your support? or even a stranger on the street?

Sugarsprinkles 10-28-2007 12:11 AM

I really do try to stay out of political discussions but I can't hold back any longer on this.

Barak Obaman is NOT and NEVER has been a Muslim!!! This is malarkey from the FAUX NEWS Channel. Having the middle name Hussein, or attending school in Singapore does NOT make one a Muslim.

And regarding the Flag pins.......Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeldt all wear/wore flag pins and look where they've gotten us....in a war we never should have started, can't win, and can't get out of. Sort of like Vietnam, only in Vietname we were asked to be there and we sure as hell didn't start it.

In my opinion, for what it's worth, too many politicians who make a show out of wearing the flag pin are just like the Pharisees who were more interested in proclaiming their good deeds than actually DOING good deeds. They only wear the flag pin so they can be seen wearing it. Would they wear it if they were a janitor or a barber or a doctor?? Somehow I doubt it. A flag pin on a politician doesn't prove a damn thing.

Lilith 10-28-2007 04:25 PM

MTV/VH1 and myspace are hosting another event tomorrow night October 29th. http://www.myspace.com/election2008 This one will feature Mr. Obama. Maybe this would be a way to have some questions answered. I know you can submit questions. I watched the one that featured Mr. Edwards and there were questions that were asked that were obviously from people who were not pro-Edwards.

CrazeeeWhorse 10-28-2007 07:14 PM

:rockon: "GOD BLESS AMERICA", need I say more? Crazeeeeeeee

txgrneyes 10-28-2007 08:06 PM

http://urbanlegends.about.com/libra...bama_muslim.htm


I stand corrected.

Sugarsprinkles 10-28-2007 11:30 PM

Hi Tx! :x:

It's really amazing how many people have fallen for that Obama is a Muslim story that FAUX News put out. I go to other message boards and so many, particularly those that I can best describe as either the Religious Right, or Evangelicals, are absolutely convinced that he's Muslim. And nothing anyone can say will convince them otherwise. They think that anyone who doesn't believe has to be one of those to be feared Democrats or even worse LIBERALS!!
Now, I'm not saying you fall into that category, and the fact that you took time to check for yourself proves otherwise. I really appreciate that you did that.

I don't know that I'd vote for Obama, but I can't say that I wouldn't either. All I know is that our beloved country needs to change direction. We have lost respect in the world in the past 6 years and that really needs to be reversed.

jseal 10-29-2007 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sugarsprinkles
... All I know is that our beloved country needs to change direction ...

Sugarsprinkles,

That is, after all, what elections are all about. Yes?

Jude30 10-29-2007 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by txgrneyes
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Ok...I feel like I am talking to my children. No offense to you Jude but I am sure you get the jest of what I am talking about. And maybe I am a bit nieve when it comes to politics because until his muslim background came out...I dont remember him.

But I believe in a man speaking his heart. What you do is something you represent. I work in Law Enforcement and I do my very best to uphold the law and show people around me that laws are there for a reason. If in your past you did some questionable things that speaks for you. You will have to prove yourself again. Once you prove that you can be trusted or at least upstanding then only will your actions speak for you.

I am a person of my word. IF I say I am going to do something then I will try to move heaven and earth to do what I said I would. That is all I am saying.

If someone wants my opinion or advice then they will give them the truth as I see it. They can take it with a grain of salt and do what they want with it. It might hurt but sometime you need the truth to slap you in the face.

If I feel passionate about a "cause" then I will show my passion proudly. I personally have a sticker on my car that say "Bring our solders home safely" and one that says "support our soldiers"....that is mainly because I have attended 4 funerals of young boys that died fighting in this war we have going on now and we have lost alot of ole timers that fought in WWII and Vietnam in our area. (If you need a list then I will provide one you dont have to look up this to prove me wrong). NO i didn't know all of them but I knew there families. I am sorry for there loss but I am always thinking this could be us...my brother is fighting now. So yes I do want my brother to come home safely. I want everyone young and old to support my brother and others that has chosen to fight for everybody's freedom and safety not just his own. He is willing to die for this country and I am so proud of that. I wish others would feel that dedicated for something they believe in.

I watched the movie THE SEVENTH SIGN the other day...and one part of it really hit home. (I know it is a whole different subject but) The soldiers were in the cave beating Jesus and a soldier asked a woman because she cried out against it....."Will you die for him?" What would your answer be if someone came up to you and asked you that question about your friend? your parents? your kids? or even a politician that your support? or even a stranger on the street?


You are putting the symbol ahead of actions and words. Anyone and everyone can wear a flag pin, and it can mean nothing at all beyond it being a piece of metal stuck to their lapel.

Don't ever question my willingness or ability to sacrifice. EVER! Unless you've been in a hospital room pleading with God to take you and let your childen live, and having it not work I don't really care how much you cried at a movie.

txgrneyes 10-29-2007 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jude30

Don't ever question my willingness or ability to sacrifice. EVER! Unless you've been in a hospital room pleading with God to take you and let your childen live, and having it not work I don't really care how much you cried at a movie.


Look Jude, I am sorry that you were in that situation and that your prayers were not answered. But I do NOT have control over that. I didn't question your willingness or ability to sacrifice. I just asked a question trying to prove the dedication to a cause. You took it there.

And for your information I have been THERE, in that emergency room, then the hospital room hoping against hope that the doctors were right, praying to God and even begging at times, prayin with everyone that would pray with me and even in those moments that I was so alone waiting and watching my son as his chest rose up and down and panicing if his chest didn't move just in time. Yes, I have been THERE...My son was hours away from death so yes I have been there I believe that is why the movie hit me so hard.

I know it doesn't help but the time God allowed you to have with your child/children was your blessing. God does not tell us when we are chosen to have a child in our lives that we will have them for the rest of our lives. He makes the choice of when he needs them back. That is out of our control. You were blessed to be chosen and have them in your life. That has made you the person your are today. Although we do not know it, there is a reason for all HE does.

Sugarsprinkles 10-29-2007 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jseal
Sugarsprinkles,

That is, after all, what elections are all about. Yes?


Absolutely, Sir. And I can't wait for the next one!! I don't think I've looked forward to any other election as much as I am to this one, except maybe to the first election in which I was eligible to vote.

lakritze 10-29-2007 01:49 PM

Amen to Sugarsprinkles. More than that,I cannot add.


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