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WildIrish 09-27-2005 09:21 AM

If a Muslim/Hindu school learned that one of it's students came from a family that ate pork/beef...would they not expell them? It's a fundamental of their religion, and it's not outrageous to require the parents of students enrolled to follow the faith and beliefs.

It's part of the religion! If you believe...you have to do it! If you don't believe...you don't go there! And that includes the opposite. To do it (go there), you have to believe.

What is coming of this world where people have the audacity to expect an entire religion to make an exception of one it's cornerstone fundamentals...for them?

I don't have a problem with Catholic learning institutions requiring it's students & families to be Catholic. If you're not, and don't want to be...why enroll your child there?

Unless, as discussed recently, the school is under federal subsidy. At that point...no exceptions, and no exclusions. Gay, straight, crippled or crazy.....you pay, you attend.

jseal 09-27-2005 09:27 AM

WildIrish,


“Hear, hear!”

dicksbro 09-27-2005 06:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by WildIrish
I don't have a problem with Catholic learning institutions requiring it's students & families to be Catholic. If you're not, and don't want to be...why enroll your child there?


Most parochial schools I am aware of in this area do not require students to be or become members of that faith community. The only requirement is that if there are religious oriented classes ... and there are ... the non-member must be a part of those required classes. Often the non-member family pays a premium for sending their child to the school.

So, why do non-members send their children? Many times it's the real or perceived weakness of the public school district in their area; or particular problems with the faculty or staff of a particular public school their child would be required to attend.

I do agree that if you don't want your child exposed to the religious beliefs expressed at a school ... for heavens sake, your child shouldn't be sent there.

moose 09-28-2005 09:19 AM

I attended a catholic school here up unto high school, our school required we attend church on sunday and even with 700 other kids in the school they always seem to know when you missed a sunday mass, and although they did not require they parents to attend church they would always say something like I haven’t seen you at mass for a while to them to make them feel guilty I belive.

most people here send there kids to catholic schools for 2 reasons 1, they think their kids will for so reason grow up to be trouble free kids with better chances in life because they attended catholic schools. 2, they will get a better education because the catholic schools get nearly double the funding of public schools and that’s not counting the fees they also charge the parents

dicksbro 09-28-2005 09:50 AM

Interesting. Our seven kids attended a Catholic parochial grade school. Parishioners were given first chance to enroll their kids, but non-Catholics could attend. Sunday mass was not an obligation for them or their parents ... but during the week the classes attended one mass and the whole class attended but non-Catholics did not have to participate in the liturgy. Catholic students served as altar servers or did the readings from the Bible.

Most non-Catholics sent kids because they felt the education was better and/or the presence of moral teachings would be better than what they could expect at the public schools. (That was the perception ... not necessarily the truth. The local public schools are considered among very, very good.) Friends whose kids attend a Lutheran grade school suggested similar requirements or expectations.

Pita 09-28-2005 10:03 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by WildIrish

What is coming of this world where people have the audacity to expect an entire religion to make an exception of one it's cornerstone fundamentals...for them?




Right on! :thumb:

jseal 09-28-2005 10:36 AM

Gentlefolk,

In general, it seems that if the school is privately funded, the academic standards must satisfy the requirements of an oversight organization, the Middle States Commission on Higher Education being an example. The non-academic requirements are limited by state and federal law. This freedom of choice permits different organizations to present a range of choices to prospective students.

On balance, that seems reasonable. We must accept that, while most people here at Pixies (I presume) don’t approve of the admission policies of the Ontario Christian School, there are many, many people who do.

I’m sure that the admissions policies of VMI and the Citadel (Public) are substantially different from those of College Of Notre Dame Of Maryland or Baltimore Hebrew University (Private). Different clientele, different offerings.

WildIrish 09-28-2005 10:47 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jseal
The non-academic requirements are limited by state and federal law.



Meaning the state and federal govt has some control over what privately funded organizations such as schools can require of it's enrollee's.

Question is...Is following the faith of the establishment one of them?

jseal 09-28-2005 11:10 AM

WildIrish,

Good question. I'm unsure, but I suspect that following the rites of a sponsoring religious organization could be a perfectly legal requirement for remaining enrolled in such a school. For example, in a madrasa or a university for teaching RC priests.


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