So are you saying cover up my tits and don't touch myself?

LOL.... no and yes....

The guidelines say soft nudity ok but masturbation or simulated masturbation is not permissible.

Can I still show my pussy? :D

laschivious spelling wtf??? seems to be being defined as to mean no close ups of genitalia.

Your gorgeous poses like in your av and in your sexy lingerie will still make the boys, and lots of the girls too, go crazy!!!

Okayyyyyyyyy .....Goodbye couples pics *sniff*

NO!!!!


:faint:

Softcore CGT OH NO

I know........:( Why do they have to spoil our fun?

Because they are jealous of you CGT!!! :D

Thanks Lil for informing us. Try not to stress too much..... let's just see where the chips fall first.

Besides, we don't want you taking your frustrations out on Mr Lil! :D

I doubt that!

WAIT!!!!!!!!!!
I just had a brainstorm, brainfart whatever........Can we use pixiesorphans as an outlet for explicit pics you think? :D

I thought about that or I may just begin my threads here and then be willing to email zip files with the excluded portions ;)

YAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :line:

so, are the pictures going to be deleted?

All I know right now is that REPORTED posts must be taken care of.

And who here is going to "report" a pic or post. come on we are all adults here. we are very open-minded. On another note, the laws are getting absolutely ridiculous!!! i can see where they are trying to protect some but come on... infringing on our freedom of choice, and many other freedoms, give us some leeway. this site probably wouldnt have survived if this new law was in effect when it first started. (that last comment was sarcastic, not an opinion.)

just my 2 cents. sorry if it seems ANGRY, but i am. but not towards anyone here. :)

Callie

What a bunch of crap!

Maybe that nutty guy I chatted to a few years ago on ICQ really did have the internet police at his door!

I'm sure I'm not the only one feeling that they have no right to screw over what we're doing , I think it's ridiculous myself, soft core only O.o I mean come on we're grown adults here and we are being spoonfed crap like little kids

I'm not blaming you lil I know this goes higher than you but it's still not right

nex tthing ya know they are gonna outlaw foreplay, because some random kids might happen to wander into your house and walk into your bedroom

O.o this is Incubus255 by the way I have no idea why it logged me in under this one

So, have these laws actually been passed? Or do we have to follow them regardless until they have been passed?


As for ideas, could we start like a yahoo group or something where we would need to register to partake? And if so, if the group is registered in another country, say Canada, could we post then?

<~~~has been thinking...i believe i have only one picture that violates any of these rules ...i was just getting started :(

Just send them directly to me :grin:

The federal law is effective as of 6/23. There is alread a yahoo group PixiesOrphans.

record keeping
 

Now by no means am I a lawyer, but I have a fairly logical and analytical mind...so I decided to pour over some of the links to try and figure out proper wording and wiggle room with intent.

As for record keeping the main part of the law is under US Code: Title 18,2275:

(a) Whoever produces any book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, or other matter which—
(1) contains one or more visual depictions made after November 1, 1990 of actual sexually explicit conduct; and
(2) is produced in whole or in part with materials which have been mailed or shipped in interstate or foreign commerce, or is shipped or transported or is intended for shipment or transportation in interstate or foreign commerce;
shall create and maintain individually identifiable records pertaining to every performer portrayed in such a visual depiction.

now the key to this statement is in my mind that both sections a(1) and a(2) must be true due to the AND between them for it to be required for you to keep records. Seeing as Pixies does not intend for any of it's content to be used in any form of commerce; interstate, forgein or otherwise it would not fall under the requirements. All other subsections in the record keepings requirement section REQUIRE section (A) to be true to apply. So as I read the law, in my amateur opinion mind you, would not require pixies to maintain record keeping.

I'll get to work on the other section next. :cheers:

-Rukh75

one problem this is the law we are talking about you can throw logic out the window

next hurdle...
 

Ok so I've briefly looked over our other outrage...the jeered US Code:Title 18,2256. This by my understanding is nothing more than a Definitions section as it applies to the terms under Chapter 110 - SEXUAL EXPLOITATION AND OTHER ABUSE OF CHILDREN. Section 2256 reads as follows for those not familiar:

2256. Definitions for chapter

Release date: 2004-08-06

For the purposes of this chapter, the term—
(1) “minor” means any person under the age of eighteen years;
(2) “sexually explicit conduct” means actual or simulated—
(A) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex;
(B) bestiality;
(C) masturbation;
(D) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or
(E) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person;
(3) “producing” means producing, directing, manufacturing, issuing, publishing, or advertising;
(4) “organization” means a person other than an individual;
(5) “visual depiction” includes undeveloped film and videotape, and data stored on computer disk or by electronic means which is capable of conversion into a visual image;
(6) “computer” has the meaning given that term in section 1030 of this title;
(7) “custody or control” includes temporary supervision over or responsibility for a minor whether legally or illegally obtained;
(8) “child pornography” means any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer or computer-generated image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means, of sexually explicit conduct, where—
(A) the production of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct;
(B) such visual depiction is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct;
(C) such visual depiction has been created, adapted, or modified to appear that an identifiable minor is engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or
(D) such visual depiction is advertised, promoted, presented, described, or distributed in such a manner that conveys the impression that the material is or contains a visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
(9) “identifiable minor”—
(A) means a person—
(i)
(I) who was a minor at the time the visual depiction was created, adapted, or modified; or
(II) whose image as a minor was used in creating, adapting, or modifying the visual depiction; and
(ii) who is recognizable as an actual person by the person’s face, likeness, or other distinguishing characteristic, such as a unique birthmark or other recognizable feature; and
(B) shall not be construed to require proof of the actual identity of the identifiable minor.


To me, once again NOT a lawyer, this is nothing more than a definitions page clarifing stances in Chapter 110 of US Code Title 18. This section defines and deals with sexual crimes against children. Now seeing as I addressed the records keeping requirement earlier, and that in no case does pixies contain contents of minors or intend to market its current or future content for commerce that none of the other sections that this definitions section would apply or effect us on the whole. I'll keep digging, but i hope this is making sense :cheers:

-Rukh75

:whack:

Regardless of what you decipher the law to mean or as to the why's. The owners have set a policy and it will be enforced. I've watched these proceedings of people hashing it all out at several other sites experiencing this same new struggle. Ultimately it's the owner's necks in the noose and their policy will be followed in order to keep us safe and operating.

I understand what the policy is Lil and it's their choice and I'll respect it, as much as I kid and joke about not doing so. But seeing as this was a place to post questions and answers I thought that I would actually take a look at the laws, definitions and statments of this section. I understand erring on the side of lawful is always better especially when it's one's own ass on the line. I was just trying to point out in a logical fashion how and why pixies, even now, should still be withing the constructs of the current law. By no means was I protesting the change or policy...just tryin to shed a little light on an otherwise murky stick in the mud (except for the protecting children part :p) kinda law

-Rukh

1984

I understand. I really do but I find it somewhat strange that those of you who feel compelled to comb through the law must be assuming that has not already been done by many top lawyers who specialize in this field and those of civil liberties. Do you think webmasters are taking this step willingly, carelessly? No. I would think that they only are acting because they feel all avenues have been explored. Knowing what little I know, and having read a myriad of articles on the topic, I believe lakritze posted about this issue here some time ago even, that there is something about this particular law that has caused website owners to feel the need to protect themselves and their members. I certainly have no legal background so my answers can only be on how things will be handled when REPORTED and what content may be permissible.

Oh well....the pics are but a small part of this site

I'm sure we'll still carry on regardless....just need time to adjust is all

I guess I also go off the topic of the section, of answering questions about the new policy. Sorry I brought up my take on the laws here at all. Didn't want to cause any extra stress, I understand why and under what kind of pressure webmasters all across the net have had to handle the change in law...and yes I agree I'm no lawyer and they gotta know something I don't otherwise I'd be making the big $$$ too :) By looking over the law I guess I was trying to give myself a better understanding, this just wasn't the appropriate place to post my "findings" I'll take my law rant and go try and take some NEW pictures hehe. Sorry to stress ya Lil, guess I just got a bit on the excited side...

:hippy:

Understandable! Really! I have quite a few pics here myself and am facing all the same issues you guys are.

Well i (under sharni) have 400+ *LOL*....so i definately am definately facing this too

But its no biggie...we'll just share otherways ;)

I ummmmmm have over 1400 pics here. Can you at least lets us know in advance if they are going to have to delete the explicit ones so we can get what we want saved?

I would advise you to start now CGT....because when and if we have to get rid of them...they will just be gone hun

Of course this wonderfull new law can only apply to websites hosted in "the land of the free". I wonder how much it would effect the economy/jobs when all the sites like this start moving to countries that are willing to allow this harmless content???

well this would explain why Yahoo chat rooms have gone away. :(

No they havent i just looked MM

well the regular rooms are still there.



but all the User rooms are gone.