We need to keep in mind that this is an internationally used website and I expect everyone to respect each other's cultures and concerns.

I think it is ridiculous for people here to be nasty and rude to each other over an election. This place is not about that.

It's not asking too much to expect ppeolpe to be respectful.

I'm worried about EVERYTHING now that America has made the mistake...again...but hey, it's my own opinion :)

I am worrying too. Let's pray for good. :rolleyes:

OzKristin,

No matter how bad things may seem, they can always get worse. :rolleyes: Everyone has an opinion, and many of them voted their opinion.


We shall see what we shall see. While we wait, let's have a good time! :wine:

Please permit me my two cents...

CP you asked whether or not you should be happy that Bush got re-elected. I think on some points you answered your own questions. As far as your investments go, as you said, Bush has had a good track record of expanding foriegn trade. Kerry hasn't. You also stated "for the past 4 years , China's economic is growing very well even the war is still going on. So I bet China's economic probably won't get worst for another 4 more years before 2008 Beijing Olympic." Again I fail to see why you would have felt concern over Bush's victory.

Next you mention that "Second reason is another 4 more years of WARS. I hate to see more innocent people die. There is no peace when Bush is still there."
My heart goes out to the innocent that have died also. But let's place the blame where it should lie.There was peace...right up until THE U.S. was ATTACKED. 3000+ INNOCENT people died that day. Innocent people from all walks of life and from countries all over the world. Chinese and Canadian included I do believe. In December of 1941, the U.S. was also the victim of a sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. An attack upon our nation, the same as 9/11. That event also plunged our country into war. The president happened to be a Democrat. Party affiliation makes NO difference in times such as that. Should Bush have stood by and done NOTHING, if only not to be considered some "war-monger" by Liberals??? As to Iraq, Kerry has repeatedly stated he was FOR the war in Iraq (and Afghanistan, I might add). Now as to the innocent people that have died...at whose hands did they die? In Iraq, Saddam Hussein slaughtered his OWN, INNOCENT peoples. This has stopped since he was removed from power. Innocent people are dying in Iraq...at the hands of militant insurgents, mostly identified as non-Iraqi and also as being connected with Al-Quaida. (Remember the 3000+ other innocent people that they killed??) Now I ask you, why should they NOT be stopped??? And with Kerry's incredible ability to flip his opinion on matters such as this, do you think it a good idea to change leadership in the MIDDLE OF A WAR??????? Have there been innocent casualties of war because the US forces have dropped a bomb off target, or by stray gunfire? Yes I'm sure there have been. My heart and the hearts of every other US soldier go out to them. But war is what it is, and there are some things worth fighting for. People die, but let it be for the right and just cause.

Another point on Bush being a war monger. During Bush's term, we have put American soldiers in harm's way in Iraq and Afghanistan. Liberals have decried this as his being only concerned about going to war with little to no concern over anything. Yet Clinton also went to war. Three times in fact. Somalia, (the former) Yugoslavia, and yes...even IRAQ. Clinton's administration ALSO firmly believed Saddam to have weapons of mass destruction, and took (albeit ineffective) means of force against Saddam for doing so. Feel free to count up the number of cruise missle attacks against Iraq that Clinton ordered. Need I even mention the ineffectiveness of the UN, it's sanctions, and repeated appeasement of Saddam???? Were weapons of mass destruction found? No. Did Saddam have ample time to move his caches to Syria or other country? YES. Aside from WMD, did Saddam have weapons he was not supposed to under UN mandate? Again, yes he did. According to the Center for Strategic and International Studies Iraq had "stockpiles of perhaps 650,000 tons of weapons....and as many as 250,000 tons remain unaccounted for". Hmmmm.

Now then...my other two cents....

Lakritze...just because your canidate didn't win, doesn't mean democracy didn't work. I agree that not every decision should be based upon the actions of the 9/11 attacks, but don't you think it imperative that it not be disregarded either? Should the US have sat idly by afterwards?

Also, if you are unhappy at the direction the country is taking, how is leaving going to help solve it. Stay, use your voice and your vote. Lobby. And effect change. Tis the beauty of democracy.

My apologies for those that I may have offended or angered or incited, but this country is something I hold very, very dear. That feeling will not waiver, nor be influenced by whom sits in office. The commander in chief is my commander. I do not fight for politicians, I fight for right, and for my buddy beside me.

If voting could change the system, it would be illegal. If not voting could change the system, it would be illegal.

Now That ^^^^ is something I hope we can all agree on!

((((darogle))))

CP,

I was just wondering. Are you a Canadian citizen? Just being curious...:)

Now, to answer CP's question....

As someone who regularly does business through China's Waigaoqiao Free Trade Zone, I've very much appreciated China becoming more friendly to international business. If only China's IP and legal processes could be modernized a bit, it would be a perfect place to do business.

I think Bush is in favor of expanded trade...both ways...on the principle that free trade stands to benefit society and create social good. Adam Smith would be proud. :)

You have nothing to worry about, CP.

My country, right or wrong (MC,RorW). (Kendall does not think this way).

Either a majority of US voters think MC,RoW and they know about the close to 100,000 Iraqi's which have died in the Iraq war or they are ignorant of this fact. And this group just placed Bush back in office. Either way, I'm not proud to be associated with this group.

This is not optimal democracy. Jefferson told us it required a thoughtful, educated electorate.

He also felt it was perfectly fine to own people. Regardless of how this all has turned out, it's an optimal time to try to reunify the spirit of a nation. I seem to remember a time in history where we were so divided we did not even want to be called a nation....but the Constitution was ratified despite the differences.

Is this a dream or am I in pixies?

We all tend to believe that what we believe is correct, no matter what that might be. The polarization which characterized this last election did not appear overnight, nor is it likely to disappear because the election is now past. Nor should it prevent us from enjoying ourselves here. I do believe that there was another federal election recently, one which touched the lives of several of our members, and they all seemed to come through it with no ill effects, although I suspect they did not all vote the same way.

click your heels 3 times and say, "there's no place like Pixies,there's no place like Pixies, there's no place like Pixies"