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Catch22 02-26-2004 01:58 AM

If the Govt were going to stage something to get the public to rally behind a cause. Then the Statue of Liberty would have made a safer target. At 8AM there is nobody around to be killed and it is a symbol to which all would react. Plus it would be less expensive to rebuild then the towers.

LixyChick 02-26-2004 06:13 AM

Does anyone remember the plane that was hijacked by the terrorists, but crashed in Pa. before it got to it's target? It was speculated that it could have been headed to The Statue of Liberty or The White House. The people aboard were thought to have brought that plane down themselves........but there was also rumor of an F-16 in the vicinity and some had claimed it was shot down by land forces.

Of all the landmarks mentioned.....forgotten here is the cradle of liberty.....Philadelphia, Pa.

I'm inclined to think as jseal suggested.......that what terrorists might think of in their warped minds, as a place to attack and send us "the perfect message".....might not be the same as what we would say if we were asked to name the "heart" of our nation!

I for one, wouldn't name any particular tourist site as our "heart"....but instead I would say that the heart lies within each citizen and his/her contribution to making this such a great nation! How could a terrorist "strike" that? As I, and many others, have said before......it was sad to see the towers fall......but what truly hurt was to know of all the people who perished in the buildings and on the planes......and of all the families of those people who were left to carry on without them. In my opinion.......that's the point here. And the terrorists missed it and so have you ss!


*stands for The National Anthem*

Sharni 02-26-2004 06:29 AM

*stands too*

There were multiple nationalities that lost their precious lives

LixyChick 02-26-2004 06:38 AM

That's true Sharni! This wasn't a message to Americans! This was a warped message to the world!!!!

FussyPucker 02-26-2004 07:36 AM

conspiracy theories - All a matter of how you present your "evidence", pick out the bits you think support you case and show them in such a way that you're making people believe that is the way it should be interpreted.

I've read through information on the moonlanding "hoax", the 9/11 theory and even the Prince Charles is the devil and a Muslim theory.

having a theory and then making the "facts" fit your theory is not good!

Oldfart 02-26-2004 08:16 AM

If anyone can explain to me how the US Government can talk

a heap of foreigners into flying planes into US buildings,

then maybe I'll give it credence.

America, and to a lesser degree the whole Western World was

responsible for 9/11 because we exist, and stubbornly refuse to

move aside to make way for the New Islamic Fundamentalist Order.

There is a lot of water to go under the bridge before this is over.

While I don't doubt that the US Government and it's agencies does

things to protect and preserve the quarter billion people under their

care and that many may be unpalatable to the general populace,

This does not have the right "taste" to fit the bill.

silentsoul 02-26-2004 11:04 AM

catch 22 - first, the 15 year old was someone from my school that just happened to go on vacation at the time.

lixy - all of these landmarks that I speak of are simply one of the top places that the american public would think of. As for the thousands of people that lost their lives, I'm sorry for how their lives will be changed forever. However, in a militant sense of the word, they are but casulties of war.



Obviously, you all are not understanding my main point. The people, whoever they are, that was in charge of setting up those attacks, can't be named. I'm not saying that bush himself set all this up, nearly the opposite. Whoever those poeple are not looking at the immediate losses and gains.

Look at it this way.

Money - hundreds of thousands of dollars were donated after the attack

privacy - since the attack, privacy has gone to shit.

american patriotism - It's never been higher, more people are joining the military, all those damn flags, we're totally in love with ourselves.

Security - omg what a joke, I'm not even going to begin to start on that one.





I'll end by saying this. It's obvious that no one is getting the point that I'm trying to make. I'll admit, that's a good thing, means there's some sanity left in the world. Anyway, this has all been a simple experiment of open mindness. All in all I simply wanted to put some questions in peoples mind. I'm gonna leave it at that.

FussyPucker 02-26-2004 11:27 AM

So, in a nutshell, are you saying there's a small (possibly large) group of people that REALLY control the course of things in the US? This isn't in fact the government but there maybe elements of the group within the government........

Have you ever heard of David Icke?

Catch22 02-26-2004 12:10 PM

Islamic has nothing really to do with any of it. Most of the cold war was in Islamic araes. When the cold war ended these people were left high and dry by both the former USSR and the US. These guys need a world watching its back so they can get a living. There is no cause as such, that they are following. It is interesting that Iraq is now more Islamic then it was a year ago. You can say the 'Men in Black' are behind anything. It may or may not be so. I think one would go mad worrying about it. I have been to the spot were JFK was killed. There is a lot about that being a Men in Black thing. One could even say things about WW2. Why were the Fleet Carriers at sea the Day the Japs bombed Pearl? The world is not a James Bond movie. Be happy your alive to chat up school girls and not in some 3rd world place fighting for life every day of the week.

lakritze 02-26-2004 12:22 PM

Thank you SS for approaching a subject that many have felt but dared not speak of over the last couple of years. It is not unAmerican to realize there is a mean spirit in this land.This news is beginning to break and serious questions are beginning to be asked.I had always felt that Osama was nothing more than a CIA flunkey that would do anything that they would tell him to do.After all,thats how he started out.We have been told nothing but lies from this Administration.Have you ever read anything about W's grandpa Prescott Bush and his NAZI ties?

jseal 02-26-2004 12:26 PM

silentsoul,

I think Lilith made a good point. You may notice that you are having a bit of difficulty advancing your theory as popular history. So be it. Represent it as a short story. In doing so, your readers are apt to take a rather less skeptical view of what you have to say.

uwish6969 02-26-2004 12:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by silentsoul
Ok, how about the fact that is was the two towers that was hit in the first place. All in all, they were just buildings in the middle of a lot of other buildings.
True, what happened then was horrible, but how horrible would it have been if those two planes ended up bringing down the statue of liberty.


[/B][/QUOTE] Osama wants to spread fear,
Oh, and then there's the attack on the pentagon. What the hell was that all about? The pentagon has no real meaning whatso ever except in the eyes of the US public who see it as a big part of the military. Nothing, lost in the attack, even if the pentagon would have burned to the ground, would've taken more than a day to replace except for the finacial loss. [/B][/QUOTE]


I would like to lend my opinion to the thread.
Silent Soul, I think what was intended was this. Strike America at the heart of what makes it tick every day. The financial district in New York. With confusion and chaos created by not only destroying a nation landmark, but by the senseless massacre of innocent civilians. There were multiple planes that all had separate targets and collectively they were intended to make us as a nation fearful inour own backyard. If our stock market and large banks could not operate for days or even weeks, what kind of pandemonium would that cause? If our military's HQ (Pentagon) was in shambles, how would we react? If the White House was destroyed (Lixy is right about the PA plane), what would we do? Collectively these things were intended to instill fear in the people of the United States and all over the world. We are a Superpower of a nation. Whether or not anyone agrees with how our country is run, that's a fact. On top of all these motives for doing this (by Osama bin Laden) there is a fundemental reason why they would do this.
Christianity.
They feel that they are being oppressed by the Christians in this world and our President is a God Loving ad Fearing man as are quite a number of his cabinet. This is a direct attack on what they feel has been oppressing them for centuries. Now that we have a President that prays before meetings, looks to God for guidance in his admministration and so on, the heat has been turned up. I for one am glad that we have a President that looks for spiritual guidance in matters concerning our nation.
To even say that "they" did this is preposterous! I realize that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that just strikes a nerve with me.
Thanks for the opportunity to vent.

LixyChick 02-26-2004 05:30 PM

I resent that you think I don't understand your point ss! I don't agree with it....but I DO understand it!

I completely understand that you think that our government is so hard up and so evil that they have stooped three levels lower than the subway with terroristic attacks....and are now, somehow, hiding behind a man (Bin Laden) and his followers and letting them take all the blame......while they sit back and watch and gloat in their secret glory........all to inspire patriotism and to get into our heads and pockets......and that somehow not one single soul in the political arena has noticed this behavior and identified it as abhorrent....because everyone who holds a political office is in on the secret and is now reaping the benefits of this conspiracy!

Is that about it in a nutshell?

Tess 02-26-2004 05:33 PM

*Where is Uncle Silky when we need him most?*

silentsoul 02-26-2004 06:24 PM

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